RESTORED APOLOGETICS {LDS/MORMON STUDIES, EVIDENCES & POLEMICS, 2010}

Restored Apologetics is a restoration of the same types of polemical answers that early Christians gave to early anti-Christians. LDS believe there was a restoration of Christ's church & the spiritual gifts. After years of research & tracking down what happened to different beliefs & rituals, & noting similar beliefs are apologetically defended. LDS also see a restoration in the same types of answers that answer modern critics, thus Restored Apologetics.

Sources to Art Works in Historic Christianity

Walter Oakeshott, Classical Inspiration In Medieval Art, (NY: Frederick A. Praeger, 1959), plate 80: "A Carolingian ivory masterpiece: France, 9th cent." Ascension of Christ into heaven, hand of God the Father greeting Christ.

Hanns Swarzenski, (2nd ed.), Monuments of Romanesque Art, (Un. of Chicago Press, 1954 & 1967), plate 66, fig. 151. Late 10th cent.: "Christ in Mandorla" for rebirth, or as passage into another realm. Hand of God clasps the wrist of the Son, while an angel clasps hand of Christ.

Early Christian Art, The Late Roman & Byzantine Empires from the 3rd to the 7th century, fig. 83. Venice, St. Mark's 5th cent. Christ in Limbo. Adam reaches around a pillar to clasp right hand of Christ.

W. F. Volbach & Max Hirmer, Early Christian Art, (Pub. A Abrams), 93, Munich, Bavarian National Museum, ivory panel, Christ ascending into heaven, cent. 400. God right hand clasping right hand of Christ.

Early Christian Art, ibid., The crucifixion. Late 11th or early 12th century. Ivory. Treasure of the Cathedral of Saint Just, Narbonne.

Walter Lowrie, Art In The Early Church, 1947, plate 100. Christ descent into limbo, 4th or 5th cent.

Joseph Gantner & Marcel Pobe, Romanesque Art In France, (Thames & Hudson, 1956), plate 135, p. 64. Conques (Aveyron), Christ as Judge. See also: Roland H. Bainton, The Horizon of Christianity, (American Heritage Pub. Co., 1964), p. 214-15. Peter clasping hands of souls on right hand side of Christ as judge.

Andrew Martindale, Gothic Art, From the 12th to 15th century, (NY: Praeger, 1967), p. 132 & 133, Illustration 98: Belleville Breviary from the workshop of Jean Pucelle; probably between 1323 & 1326. Arm of God clasping hand of a person.

New Catholic Encyclopedia, vol. 21, p. 809, fig. 2-b. Old Testament prefigurations of Marriage, fragments of a Flemish silk & wool. Seven Sacraments. Tapestry from the workshop of Pasquier Grenier, Tournai, 3rd quarter of 15th cent.

Claude Schaeffner, Artistic Consultant: Jean-Clarence Lambert & others, Gothic Painting I, p. 48, (England: Ed. S.A. Geneva 1968. Master of Westphalia 14th century. Christ in Purgatory, Wallraf-Richartz Museum, Cologne. Christ grasping Adam by his hands. See also: The Lost Books of The Bible & The Forgotten Books of Eden, (Alpha House, 1926 & 27), p. 86-88, "The Gospel of Nicodemus." Also: A Library of Fathers of the Holy Catholic Church, vol. 2, p. 264-5, S. Cyril of Jerusalem, Lecture On the Mysteries.

Art A History of Painting, Sculpture, Architecture, vol. 1, p. 327, fig. 410. Benedetto Antelami. Descent from the cross. Relief. 1178. Cathedral of Parma, Italy, "...the lifting of Christ hand from the Cross becomes an act of ritual grace, accomplished with the aid of an angel."

Jean Porcher, Medieval French Miniatures, 38- The anumciation, 2nd half of the 12th cent. In the temple. Luke 1:10-11.

Hanns Swarzenski, Monuments of Romanesque Art, (Un. of Chicago Press, 1954 & 1967), plate 15, fig. 35, the ascension, Lorraine, cent. 1000. Hand of god extends down from heaven to grasp the hand of Christ.

Interesting Possible Connections between Christianity & the Mayans

The ascension into heaven, in historic Christian art, is also connected to deification = becoming divine, or gods! It was part of their earlier Christian mysteries too.

Here's some other examples to check out:

The Ascension, Northern French ivory carving work, about 1160-70 AD, the right hand of the Father extends down to grasp Christ's right hand, during Christ's ascension into heaven.

Christ's Ascension, Drogo Sacramentary (Paris BN lat. 9428), 9th cent. The right hand of the Father extends down to grip the right hand of Christ, as Christ stands on a small hill. (L'Ascension 40 jours après la résurrection de Pâques Jésus caché par une nuée s'élève dans le ciel IXe siècle Bibliothèque nationale Paris).

Ancient American cases:

There's even cases where ancient American "gods" ascend, with helping hands, in "resurrection" depictions, such as the Corn God being resurrected with the help of the head band twins. (Susan Milbrath, Star Gods of The Maya, Astronomy In Art, Folklore & Calendars, (Texas Un. Press, 1999), 100-1, fig.3.11), Late Classical Vessel, Corn God Resurrected by Head Band Twins, Mayan art work).

An interesting Mayan work on a bowl shows another ascension out of the underworld, a hand extends down with a wound(?), or dot (death spot on the hand?), it grasps the right hand of the one ascending. (974 bowl Veracruz during the Classic Period 300-900 AD, wounded hand clasp?)

In the Book of Mormon, 3rd Nephi 8:5, during the first few days of a new year, the 34th year, the 4th day, a great storm (volcano?) arose, the earth shakes, a vapor of darkness blocks out even the sun light. 1 Month, year 34, 4th day, or 1-4-34. Three days later, 1-7-34, the people hear the voice of God calling out to them to repent, etc. (3rd Nephi 8:23; 9). About a year later, towards the end of the 34th year, Christ appears to people at the temple, which was in the land Bountiful, & invites them to come forth & feel his wounds, (3rd Ne.10:18, 11:1-17). What is interesting to me is the traditions that Mayans & other native Americans have about a bright wounded wandering God, who appeared & promised to one day return. In the Mayan calendar system, 7 manik matches up with day 7 of a new year. Manik is a hand symbol that looks like it is grasping. Note again, that it's for DAY 7!

It looks like the hand is wounded or is cut off. 7 in Mayan count, rolls around on the wheels to line up with a line or bar with 2 dots, for #7. Note, grasping hand, day 7, of a new year. This is when the resurrected Christ was starting his world wide visits all around the world. He kept appearing to different people for some time, after his resurrection. Then, towards the end of the 34th year, it was the people at the temple in the land of Bountiful's turn:

"Arise and come forth unto me, that ye may thrust your hands into my side, and also that ye may feel the prints of the nails in my hands & feet,..." says the resurrected Christ to the ancient Americans, (3rd Ne. 11:14). I believe there must be a connection with all these art works that testify of the memory of Christ as not only the wounded Son of God of the Old World, but also the wounded Son of God of the New!

New World Money Order$ - Coup to Kill & Cover Up Pres. John F. Kennedy Assasination

Clip from Zapruder film, 11-22-1963, Jackie Kennedy is shocked to see back head wound of Pres. John F. Kennedy: Click on picture to watch rare You Tube historical documentary: New World Money Order$! It's about evidences as to how conspirators, behind the coup that dethroned President John F. Kennedy; also sought to cover it up! How their motives could have been rooted in their plots to bring about a New World Order, 1 World Government. And because JFK at first made steps to helping the NWO move along, but then started in a different direction away from working towards 1 World Government, or the New World Order; some researchers have pointed out that such moves could be reasons why JFK was assasinated by a coup! Thus, this documentary explores those motives, offers testimonials, rare audio clips & footage that uncovers evidences that there could have been a coup, not just 1 lone gunman!

Altar Gospels in silver-gilt cover with enameled medallions. Dated 1772.

Treasures From The Kremlin, An Exhibition from the State Museums of the Moscow Kremlin at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, May 19--September 2, 1979 and the Grand Palais, Paris, Octover 12, 1979--January 7, 1980. (New York: The Metropolitan Museum of Art, Harry N. Abrams, Inc., 1979), p. 84-85, 173,Altar Gospels in silver-gilt cover with enameled medallions. Dated 1772. Christ's hold a crossed battle banner in his left hand, while with his right, he grabs hold of Adam's right hand to raise him up in the resurrection. Under Christ's feet are the doors of hell which have fallen, as he frees souls out of hell. Up above this seen is the Father, with a triangle behind his head, a traditional symbol for the trinity. Below the Father, is the dove, symbolizing the Holy Spirit. Note too how Christ's face shines with glory in this beautiful depiction of salvation for the dead.

Altar Gospels in silver-gilt cover with enameled medallions. AD 1772.

Anastasis, descent into hades. Christ enters the doors to free captives!

The King of Glory: The Anastasis = Resurrection. After Christ's descent into hell, Christ liberates, sets free, resurrects the captive spirits by breaking down or entering into the doors or gates of hades, limbo, purgatory, the abyss or underworld. That's why we see the fallen doors under his feet, symbolic of his victory march over death, hell & the devil. It's also the very moment of the deification process & his victory march throughout realms & throughout the world. The light of his gospel & his glorious resurrection shines forth into all nations! Christ's world wide trek is underway, as the King of Glory enters into the gates of all nations! Art: Descent Hades Serbian 14th cent monastery Visoki Decani Kosovo Metohija Serbia.

Traces of Gospel Preached in the Spirit Prison, in Later Traditions & Ceremonies

In different branches of historic biblical Christianity; Christ's descent through the gates or doors of hell are expounded on & ritualistically acted out. Early to later Christian writers, leaders, artists, poets, mystery plays, ritual dramas; expounded upon, & even acted out scriptural supported ceremonial acts & drama of Christ knocking on the doors to hell & entering in to spread the light of his gospel to the souls once held captive there, for they're about to be liberated. In art, Christ is sometimes depicted kicking the doors, in other works, he's standing on the fallen doors that show the bolts & fragments of the gates or doors scattered. Under the doors are a personified hades, hell, or crushed devil. Christ stands on the doors, a symbol of his victory over death, hell & devils, who often attempt to try to stop the harrowing of hell, but can't. They can't, because Christ is "the king of glory!" No hellish powers can stop his mighty bright descent into the darkness of the abyss, the underworld, hades, limbo, the Anastasis. Hell is harrowed, the greatful dead come forth singing praises, as they are lifted up, by different types of wrist & hand clasps. Thus, they are lifted out of the spirit prison house.

In legends the brightness of Christ's power to liberate, is poetically presented!

In, The Great Golden Legend, Medieval Poetry:

"And what happened when Jesus died? For He invaded death's a bode and robb'd him of his sting. The house of dust enthralls no more, for He, the strong to save, Himself doth guard that silent door, Great Keeper of the grave.

One day, in Satan's realm-- the dark domain,
Where souls of dead in chains of death remain.

The Prince of darkness, boastful, spake aloud --
to his abject, imprisoned, awestruck crowd:

`Hearken, ye spirits. Lo, I bring you this day --
Another victim bound beneath my sway:

Jesus, the Nazarene, the Master Fraud --
Who proudly claimed Himself the Son of God!

I laid the snare, which the Impostor caught, --
And to the tree of shame the Boaster brought; --

and now, between thieves He helpless hangs, --
In Death's dissolving and resistless pangs.

You shall behold Him pass through Hades' door, --
To walk among the living -- nevermore!

My power shall hush the Archpretender's breath.'

Then Hell itself in fear began to quake, --
And, in alarm, thus to the Devil spake, --

`Jesus! Dost thou not fear that mighty Name?
And is this Jesus--Nazarene-- the same

who once cried, "Lazarus! Come forth!"
& swift the bands of death were loosed, his fetters rift,

and through thy gates impassable he broke, --
so soon as that almighty word was spoke?

Let but that Jesus once invade these halls, --
And in that hour thy boasted empire falls!

What if the victim thou dost proudly claim --
Shall as the Victor bring thy pride to shame?'

While Hell thus spake, a voice like thunder rolls, --
throughout the realms of Death's imprisoned souls:

'Lift up your heads, ye everlasting gates!
The King of Glory at your entrance waits.' --

Then Hell inquires, `Who is this glorious King?'
And with the answer all its chambers ring:

`The Lord of Hosts -- strong to subdue all foes,
Mighty in battle -- none can Him oppose.'

Then, in the realm of Death's unbroken shade --
Appeared the Conqueror in light arrayed.

It was as tho' in crimson & in gold --
The splendour of a thousand suns had rolled --

Their mingled glory in one matchless beam, --
And lit up Death Shade with the lustrous gleam.

Ineffable that glory; as it shone --
Like to the radiance of the Great White Throne, --

Precipitate, demons of darkness fled, --
And lost souls, to the confines of the dead.

Whilst through the open gates and broken bars, --
Toward realms of light more fadeless than the stars, --

The Prince of Life a host of captives led --
From out [of] the night and bondage of the dead."
From: Geoffrey R. King, The Forty Days, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: WM. B. Eerdmans. Co., 1949), p.15-20.

Isaiah: The Light shining in darkness in the valley of the shadow of death, (9:2-6). David's Psalm 24:3-10, are reflected in this Golden Legend. But also the reference to combat with his foe, (1 Cor. 15).

Here, it's acted out on You Tube, called King of Glory.

Links to LDS Apologists & Apologetics

Official site for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg

LDS Scriptures on line: Old & New Testaments (King James Version); Book of Mormon (Another Testament of Jesus Christ); Doctrine & Covenants; Pearl of Great Price

BYU Speeches
http://speeches.byu.edu/

Profile of a Prophet by Brown, Hugh B.
http://speeches.byu.edu/?act=viewitem&id=114

http://feeds.feedburner.com/ldsvoices-prophets

Early Christian Church Fathers' writings: The Ante-Nicene Fathers; Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers (series on line).
http://www.ccel.org/fathers.html

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/christian-history.html

http://jewishchristianlit.com//Resources/Texts/apFat.html

http://bullpup.lib.unca.edu/library/rr/early_xnty.html

3rd cent. AD: Origen, early Christian scholar & apologist, wrote 8 books in response to & against the early anti-Christian, Celsus. (See: The Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 4). Many parallel arguments that Celsus makes against the early Christians; reminds me of modern anti-LDS' tactics, arguments & vilification methods used against LDS.
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf04.toc.html

http://pacumenispages.yuku.com/search/topic/topic/4588/q/Missing%20books%20from%20bible?page=1
Note the parallels between early anti-Christian, Celsus, writing against the early Christians, about 170-80 AD, & anti-LDS.

Topix: Answers to Early anti-Christians, answer modern anti-Mormon "Christians!"
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/TA5R4BO83H9OD39T8#c7

R. Joseph Hoffmann,(translator) Celsus On The True Doctrine, (A Discourse Against the early Christians), (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1987). This book puts all of the quote from Celsus together, gleaned from Origen's responses.

A. S. Garretson, Primitive Christianity And Early Criticism,(Boston: Sherman, French & Company, 1912).

Robert Louis Wilken, The Christians As The Romans Saw Them,(Yale Un. Press; New Haven & London, 1984).

Stephen Benko, Pagan Rome And The Early Christians,(Indiana: Indiana University Press, 1984).

W. H. C. Frend, Martyrdom & Persecution In The Early Church,(Garden City, New York: Anchor Books Doubleday & Company, 1967).

The Ante-Nicene Fathers = TANF. A set of volumes on the writings of the early Christians before the Nicene Creed era of A.D. 325.(Grand Rapids, Michigan: T & T Clark, Edinburgh, W. M. B. Eerdmans Publishing, reprinted October 1989), nine volumes.

The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,(Grand Rapids, Michigan: W. M. B. Eerdmans, reprinted April 1986), fourteen volumes.

Christ As Cosmic Cruiser: Christ Went To Other Nations
(Video documentary: Historical, Comical & Musical Tour through Christmas & Early to Later Christian art works, legends, traditions & earlier Christian Apologists' defenses of Christ's world wide wanderings).
http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr#g/c/0B6EF521DAC91502

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6F1D1B591FDE2A2A

Justin Martyr Jr's You Tube Archives
http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr&qu...

http://www.youtube.com/user/JustinMartyrJr#g/...

http://freedomshouldbeforfree2.blogspot.com/

RESTORED APOLOGETICS YOU TUBE PLAY LISTS
http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETI...

http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETI...

COVERT COSMIC CRUISERS
(A new music band that blends different types of music from around the world to create a mellow type of classical rock. A band which seeks to spread positive messages in their lyrics & hopes to present many up-lifting songs, (sometimes with a little beat), to the internet world. A number of their songs are included in the background of some rough draft research presentations & video series of Justin Martyr Jr & Restored Apologetics.)
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=860916

The Wisdom behind the Word of Wisdom, (D&C 89)
Covert Cosmic Cruisers' musical about the dangers of Tobacco Companies' Ads to continue to get people to smoke.
http://www.howdoigetmymomoffdrugs.com/2010/02/23/dont-watch-this-tobacco-companies-ads-lies-exposed/

Covert Cosmic Cruisers' World Wide Warranty, (2-15-2009), a mellow bluesy rock song about cheap products, customer service computers that can hardly understand you, & bad repair services.
http://www.nme.com/awards/video/id/Ba6OmfnJDsE

Why Aren't All Nations Free? (Link list to documentaries, commentaries & music)
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/T4FKTRO1R01LT9N2Q

Hannah Rebekah (An On line LDS Apologist & fellow research/writer), has sometimes teamed up with Justin Martyr Jr on Topix to deal with a lot of anti-LDS posters. Critics don't like them because of how they also present a lot of information with a lot of sources to back up their claims. Here's her most excellent blog on Temple Studies, early Christian art that relate to the restored gospel).
LDS Temples and 'Ancient Wisdom'

Earlier Christians' Baptism for dead eventually became later legends & traditions!

Modern Christianity has ignored, forgotten & many don't realize that Baptism for the Dead was taught & practiced by many earlier Christian sects. It was the ritualistic type of Christ's descent into limbo, hades, hell, purgatory, the watery abyss; where John Baptist, Christ, his apostles, saints & angels go to preach gospel, (John 5:25-29; 1 Peter 3:15-22; 4:5-6; Eph.4:7-14; Shepherd of Hermas, Sim.9; Preaching of John Bap. in Hades - Church of Holy Apostles, 13th c. fresco; Pec. Serbia; Anastasis). In early Christian writings & art works they're depicted as descending & seen in hell preaching gospel & freeing captive spirits of dead to escort their spirits or the resurrected into paradise. Liturgical & Masses for dead illustrations also show this being done too. Baptism for Dead eventually was discontinued, while prayers, masses & liturgical rites for dead continue even to this day in Catholic & Orthodox churches. LDS testify to having restored these earlier doctrines & ritualistic types, that of baptism for the dead, (1 Cor. 15). Paul testified of the physical resurrection & points out inconsistencies of those who practiced the ritualistic type of resurrection, baptism for dead; while not accepting a physical resurrection- (which eventually was turned to a spiritual resurrection in later centuries when it was debated over.

Councils of Carthage- North Africa, & Hippo, towards end of 4th c. discouraged & discontinued later versions of baptism for & of dead, while prayers for dead were encouraged. Later mystery plays, legends & creeds include Christ's descent into hell; & even baptismal prayer formulas to free fairy type creatures near watery areas-- for such fairy type creatures were believed to be the spirits of unbaptized babies, haunting & crying for baptism, cause they'd died without it. So eventually, baptism for dead was legendized in later centuries. That's why LDS believe & testify it was restored as part of the temple endowments.

Henry Ansgar Kelly, The Devil at baptism: Ritual, Theology, & Drama, (Ithaca & London: Cornell Un. Press, 1985; DT, Upon them Hath the Light Shined, 1995-9; Anna D Kartsonis, Anastasis, Princeton Un. Press, 1986; Ariel L. Crowley, BAPTISM FOR THE DEAD; Geoffrey R King, The 40 Days, Michigan: WMB Eerdmans, 1949; Huge Nibley, Baptism for the Dead in Ancient Time, SLC, Utah: Improvement Era, 51--52, (12 1948-4-1949; Jeffrey B Russell, Satan, The Early Christian Tradition, Cornell Un. Press, 1981; John P Lundy, Monumental Christianity, NY: J W Bouton, 1882; Linda J Ivanits, Russian Folk Belief, NY: M E Sharpe, 1989; KTKK 630 AM Radio show, Religion on the Line, 3-1-92, Martin Tanner & Matthew Roper on Early Christianity & Baptism for the Dead; Hallenfahrt Christis, in Richard Paul Wulker, Bibliothek der Angelsachsischen Poesie, Leipzig: Wigands, 1897, 3 vols; Himmel Hölle Fegefeuer, Das Jenseits im Mittelalter, 1994, Schweizerisches Landesmuseum, Zurich, Wilhelm Fink Verlag, Munchen.

http://baptismforthedead.blogspot.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVXVJ5ujJFM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw8tCE8fa1s&feature=related

Baptism for the Dead
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/T09C3K8BC117PE1R5

Dr. Huge Nibley, The Early Christian Prayer Circle
http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/transcripts/?id=59

Topix Link to LDS Apologists
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/T2CRCE62VJ36K4Q4A#lastPost

Topix postings:
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints

Exposing Anti-Mormonism and their Tactics
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/TE4V2GHBN2N7V8VVA

Larry, Justin Martyr Jr. etc., at Topix: What Anti-Mormons don't Want People to Know.

LDSindex.org Resources, Arts & Crafts, Books & Book stores, plus much more.

Dr. Einar C. Erickson, Ancient Document Mormon Scholar
http://www.einarerickson.com/content/view/13/30/

http://www.einarerickson.com/content/category/1/68/38/

http://www.einarerickson.com/content/category/1/71/39/

The Foundation for Apologetic Information & Research (FAIR)
http://www.youtube.com/user/fairldsorg

http://www.fairlds.org/

Missed a FAIR Conference? Check out the videos of past ones:

http://en.fairmormon.org/Topical_Guide/Multimedia_presentations/Videos/YouTube/FAIR_Conference

Play list of FAIR Conferences at RESTORED APOLOGETICS YOU TUBE PLAY LISTS:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS#g/c/6E2ED8939F7E5113

http://www.mormonwiki.org/Mormon_Apologetics

Jeff Lindsay: Questions About the LDS Temple Ceremony & Masonry.
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_masons.shtml

LDS Black members tackle a difficult topic & offer answers to old & current racial issues. Offering answers to the meaning of "curses" in scriptures, etc.
http://www.blacklds.org/

http://www.youtube.com/user/RESTOREDAPOLOGETICS#grid/user/679293A6FD84EFF0

Black & White have been used by the ancients for color symbolism. Animal skins thus spotted until they were blackened, was symbolic of a person racking up sins. To have your skins (garments), washed white through Christ's atonement, was symbolic of being cleansed from sins, so that you'd be "spotless" before God's judgment. This video play list will explore these ancient ritualistic color garment symbolism & how they were passed down to modern times. It will also deal with "White & delightsome," issue in the Book of Mormon, or the "skin of blackness," that came upon those who didn't keep God's commandments. Or how they became a "White [pure] & delightsome" people when they did. It will show how the LDS people have had to change their thinking on how such passages were believed to be interpreted, & how new light on ancient garment color symbolism is helping us to understand how they ought to be interpreted. It will show how the same types of issues were also considered in historic Christianity.

Perspective of a Black Convert: Marvin Perkins, an enthusiastic Black Mormon was on Van Hale's radio show, Mormon Miscellaneous, KTKK 630 AM Radio, "K-talk," Salt Lake valley area, Utah, 23 March 2008. When he was on Mormon Miscellaneous Worldwide Talk Show, now in its 29th year; he talked about different issues concerning earlier interpretations of scriptures, about his experiences in the church. Callers called in with questions & comments too. Check it out!

http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/2008/07/18/perspective-of-a-black-convert/

http://blacksinthescriptures.com/

KTKK 630 AM Radio - "K-Talk," Listen in over the Internet!
http://www.k-talk.com/

http://www.k-talk.com/Schedule.asp

Mormon Miscellaneous with Van Hale, old time vet at LDS Apologetics, can be heard every Sunday, 5PM - 7PM Mountain time, or Utah, USA time. Hear him live on the Internet too. If you missed some of his shows, he has a podcast listing of past shows that cover all kinds of controversial & informative topics with different guests, & commentaries. This is not an edifying Sunday School meeting, boys & girls, this is old time religious polemics! Where callers with an ax to grind, or who have issues with the LDS church, members, doctrines, politics in Utah, can & do call in to attack or bring up their own points, or misconceptions & even good complaints. You'll hear gripers, haters, & will discern their hate towards the church as they battle it out with Van, who is sometimes too nice to interrupt them to ask them to stop interrupting the points he attempts to get across. However, there's also callers that back Van up, & help him with additional sources, insights & answers to different issues too, so it's not all about letting anti-Mormon callers & guests run the show. But be warned, every type of person from every type of religious or non religious background has a chance, if they want to, to voice their points. Sometimes he will even have on anti-LDS guests, or people from different religions on. So that's why I'm warning you, it's not a Sacrament meeting where you can expect to hear edifying talks about the gospel, it's polemics! Other times, authors of books, & fellow LDS Apologists will come on as guests too & even a testimony now & then is air by a caller or guest. So it's not all about endless arguments & cankerous polemics, for there's a lot to learn from these shows. A lot of answers are offered & insights from history, sources, & commentaries. But if your expecting to be edified, to feel the spirit all the time while listening to his shows, you've been warned that your in for a spiritual discerning roller coaster ride as different callers bring in their spiritual discernible intents to do harm, or poke fun, mock different aspects of the church. While others call in to help defend & testify with their own sources that back up their own claims, or that challenge claims made by critics. Thus, It's not an official LDS site, it's Mormon Miscellaneous, not a sacrament meeting! But a show that will challenge you, offer different perspectives, offer possible answers to different issues & even build up your testimony in the long run. Not everyone agrees with Van on everything, especially when it comes to the Book of Mormon, believed by him to be an inspired metaphorical narrative, not a literal history of ancient America. But, despite this, there's still a lot to be learned from a man who has spent years in the LDS church archives searching through old & original documents that relate to LDS history, early Christianity, LDS polemics, & early to later anti-Mormon issues, which he has been addressing now for over 30 years, 29 or so on different radio shows throughout the Utah area. I've been listening to Van Hale & Bill Forrest for years, from about 1982 onward. Bill later didn't take part in later shows, as much, while Van continued on, even after Bill's passing on into the hands of God, some years ago. Despite medical challenges, Van has continued on for about 29 years, he's currently in his 30th year doing radio shows. I'd like to thank him for all those years, during which I've learned a lot from him, his guests & shows. So keep an open mind as you listen in. Thus, for what they are worth, & I think they are of great worth, here's a link to Van's past shows in podcast forms: http://www.mormonmiscellaneous.com/

http://mormonmisc.podbean.com/

The New American Century Directed by Massimo Mazzucco

This & the following documentaries offer evidences that the constitution is in trouble of being overthrown, as prophesied by the prophet Joseph Smith! The War on Freedom: America's war on freedom & why it is becoming a police state. Further evidence of those seeking to destroy the constitution & bill of rights in the name of protecting freedom, patriotism, national security & rights. Evidences of inside knowledge of 911 attacks would come. How such attacks have been used to rally the masses for manufactured & real "enemies" that threaten "nation security!" How real or manufactured threats & one crisis after another are used & taken advantage of in order to bring in constitutional destorying Acts & Bills & different "wars" on different alleged or real threats to the USA. How one real or manufactured "crisis" after another are used to rally the masses to go to war against manufactured or real enemies of the USA. How also billions of Tax payers' $ are used to build up arms, weapons, & on going war machines, where certain ones in power make billions of $s off of back room lobby dealings; government contract deals & weapons contracts & reconstruction deals. More evidences of corruptions in Government, by corrupt government & global corporates' officials.

Ezra Taft Benson warned against "One World Government" & threats to Freedom

LDS Apostle, Ezra Taft Benson, Vietnam -
Victory Or Surrender, (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University/Electronic Media Department, Recording Operations Section/Room E-366 HFAC; BYU Devotional address given during the Vietnam war, tape K1389).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vt1lWSsWdA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyu1fHdfIew
Key portions of this talk are presented in this series:
New World Order, Early Christian Orders, Masons & Mormons (parts 2 & 3). Benson warns how communist controlled United Nations seeks to bring America into a "world body," or "One World Government," where the constitution would be voided out & national sovereignty would be done away with. The Vietnam War was going on during the time he gave this talk, thus, this talk was given during the late 1960s, early 1970s.

LDS Leaders, prophets & apostles on Freedom, the constitution, their warnings about secret combinations
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/latter-day-saints/TRQK1L6O2UCG372A9/post30

None Dare Call It Conspiracy, by Gary Allen, recommended reading by Ezra Taft Benson
http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/ebooks/none_dare_call_it_conspiracy_allen.pdf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehD390q9G3k
LDS Prophets warn us of the dangers facing America

http://www.youtube.com/user/alma43454647

Police State 4: Alex Jones' shocking documentary, 2010

Another shocking documentary about threats to freedoms from those seeking World Government, called by secret combinations' planners, A "New World Order." Alex Jones, in 2010, offers part 4 of his on going warnings about an ever growing threat to individual free agency from wicked tyrants & factions in Governments! A witness & warning that offers evidences that the prophetic warnings in the Book of Mormon about secret combinations that would seek to overthrow the freedoms of all nations, are coming true. Another wake up call! Towards the end of this documentary, Alex attempts to get Glen Beck, (I think he offers some good information too), to look further into the evidences that Alex's research team offers about some aspects of the global plot, that Beck makes fun of. They both seem to be on the team, for freedom, but currently are rivals about different issues.

Prophetic Warnings that Conspiracy Theory Mockers Would Come from Even Some In The LDS Church

Lehi’s Dream & You

BOYD K. PACKER

BYU Devotional address, 1-16-2007

Commenting on Lehi's dream, 1 Nephi 8

"...One word in this dream or vision should have special meaning to you young Latter-day Saints. The word is after. It was after the people had found the tree that they became ashamed, and because of the mockery of the world they fell away...."

"We live in a time of war, that spiritual war that will never end. Moroni warned us that the secret combinations begun by Gadianton are had among all people. . . . Wherefore, O ye Gentiles [and the term gentile in that place in the Book of Mormon refers to us in our generation], it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you, that thereby ye may repent of your sins, and suffer not that these murderous combinations shall get above you. . . . Wherefore, the Lord commandeth you, when ye shall see these things come among you that ye shall awake to a sense of your awful situation, because of this secret combination which shall be among you. [Ether 8:20, 23–24]

Atheists and agnostics make nonbelief their religion and today organize in unprecedented ways to attack faith and belief. They are now organized, and they pursue political power. You will be hearing much about them and from them. Much of their attack is indirect in mocking the faithful, in mocking religion.

The types of Sherem, Nehor, and Korihor live among us today (see Jacob 7:1–21; Alma 1:1–15; Alma 30:6–60). Their arguments are not so different from those in the Book of Mormon.

You who are young will see many things that will try your courage and test your faith. All of the mocking does not come from outside of the Church. Let me say that again: All of the mocking does not come from outside of the Church. Be careful that you do not fall into the category of mocking...."

April 1965 General Conference, the Apostle, Ezra Taft Benson, said in his talk Warnings of Threats to Freedom, that: "The war in heaven is raging on earth today. The issues are the same: "Shall men be compelled to do what others claim is for their best welfare" or will they heed the counsel of the
prophet and preserve their freedom? ...No matter what you call it--communism, socialism, or the welfare state--our freedom is sacrificed.... Hear again the words of God's mouthpiece: [The prophet, David O. McKay:] "Today two mighty forces are battling for the supremacy of the world. The destiny of mankind is in the balance. It is a question of God and liberty, or atheism and slavery."

Antony C. Sutton's Bibliography

Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development: 1917-1930 (1968)
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development: 1930-1945 (1971)
Western Technology and Soviet Economic Development: 1945-1965 (1973)
National Suicide: Military Aid to the Soviet Union (1973)
What Is Libertarianism? (1973)
Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (1974, 1999) (Online version) (Online Russian version)
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler (1976, 1999) (Online version)
Wall Street and FDR (1976, 1999) (Online version)
The War on Gold: How to Profit from the Gold Crisis (1977)
Energy: The Created Crisis (1979)
The Diamond Connection: A manual for investors (1979)
Trilaterals Over Washington - Volume I (1979; with Patrick M. Wood)
Trilaterals Over Washington - Volume II (1980; with Patrick M. Wood)
Gold vs Paper: A cartoon history of inflation (1981)
Investing in Platinum Metals (1982)
Technological Treason: A catalog of U.S. firms with Soviet contracts, 1917-1982 (1982)
America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones (1983, 1986, 2002) (Online version)Back up online [1]
How the Order Creates War and Revolution (1985) (Online Russian version)
How the Order Controls Education (1985)
The Best Enemy Money Can Buy (1986) (Online version)
The Two Faces of George Bush (1988)
The Federal Reserve Conspiracy (1995) (Online Russian version (as Vlast' dollara))
Trilaterals Over America (1995) (Online version) (Online Russian version)
Cold Fusion: Secret Energy Revolution (1997)
Gold For Survival (1999)

Connecting the dots in History to the Bigger Picture, "World Orders"!

SEEING WORLD ORDERS
HIDDEN IN THE MOSAICS OF WORLD HISTORY

Globalists' Attacks on U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights & National Sovereignty!

DT, 2010

Introduction

In this article, I hope to add to the evidences presented on KTKK 630 AM Radio, & other radio shows concerning how the constitution is hanging by a thread!*1

Opening comments: Ever draw dot to dot pictures, where lines are drawn in sequence, first to last, to create pictures? There are key dots in historical events that reveals pictures as to how, when, what & who's who, or alleged who; are influencing creations of "World Orders!" And how these events are effecting us & earth!

Many Globalists,*2 believe their attacks on our US constitution, bill of rights & national sovereignty, are for "our greater good!" That we need a New World Order because of how we go from one crisis, after another!

Thus, globalists tell us:

"World peace & security," can only come through an all powerful United Nations' "peace keeping" "police force"3
"World justice," through "world law," policed by global cops for a "World Court!"4
Problems in "Global markets," & "the saving of the World Economy" in the "Global financial crisis," of 2009; and a "Global Economic recovery!" Can only come through further working out issues over a "global currency,"5 for a "one world order, a New World Order," through a "World Trade Organization." With a "World Bank" for a "new international financial order," or "new economic order."6
Global health issues can only be solved through a "World Health Organization."7 With passing of forced Health Care Reforms, as steps towards "universal health care," run by WORLD STATE. 8
The "dangers of Climate changes" & the "protection" of earth, little critters, & endangered animals & insect species, can only come through global governance! Where USA's water ways, forest, parks, & the world's oceans, & "biosphere reserves" & "world heritage sites" are established & placed under the control of the United Nations! 9
Global hunger, famines & feeding whole world, can only be solved through a World Food Bank.10

All of these & other aspects will be done, globalists say; & as patriots have warned: Through "World Order," "Global Governance" "Globalization," a "New World Order," "Global Partnerships," & Unions, such as South American Union; European Union, Asian Union, African Union & North American Union in a "World Body," super states in the "Global State," thus "becoming citizens of the world." By "building a stronger GLOBAL REGIME." 11 In fact, it's shocking to go through the old & new film footage; & historical records; & talks given by many world leaders to see how many secretly, then later openly spoke of a "New World Order!"
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Managed Conflicts: Different “wars” & how nations go from one “crisis” to another, are dots in bigger pictures! Many "managed conflicts," that are manufactured by Global Elites' plots of creating "world orders." 12

Creating different national depts, around the global, as a world "crisis," plus depressions, recessions & inflations as others; are done through Globalists' control over money flows! Earlier to later globalists' "solutions," to these types of national & global "problems," are in how the masses are told a World Bank is needed in "New Economic World Order." Steps towards this were done by sneaking Federal Reserve Act into law, when most Senators had gone home for Christmas, 1913.
1910s-50s, Globalists' rally calls "to arms" on both sides, after WW1, wasn't easy, for many Americans were Isolationists. So to create another "cause" whereby people would willingly rally behind Globalists' "solutions" to another world crisis! Globalists used scare tactics, (as later globalists would). Plus famines & managed conflicts, or wars, to play on patriotism & "defense of freedom," as their slogans. Starving masses, by this time, were more than happy to go back to work again for Globalists' Military Industrial Complex's war machine factories. Whereby globalists made further steps towards "World Government," through nations' depts, & as they made billions off of fueling, arming, feeding, & bank rolling both sides of their managed conflicts again!

Thus, Germany suffered run away inflation, or hyperinflation, 1920s. While Hard Times hit America, after stock market crash, 1929; as a Great Depression robs millions, when Globalists' privately owned FED cut off money flows, 1930s. Jobless starving masses, thankful to be able to work again, could be more easily convinced to rally to defense of "freedom," or "mother lands," if they were first starved, then given jobs after the Great Depression, as WW2 started!

World corporate oil & gas are thrown on fires of one crisis after another, in order to come up with "solutions" that ultimately take away more of our freedoms, wealth & millions of youth, dying in, or wounded in pro-longed wars!13

With scare tactics, each crisis is presented, by globalists, to be so serious that to ignore them, or by not buying into their "solutions," means the ultimate destruction of this globe! (Global warming). Or that the crisis challenges "national security," so we need sign into law, Acts not even read by congress! (Patriot Act, & Health Care Bill).

Each "crisis" is sold by globalists' owned media outlets; or by agents of influence, planted as shining media stars. Or they rally celebrities; some who later are awarded for keeping silent about working towards "World Government." (Newsman, CBS "Anchorman," Walter Cronkite).14

The different media stars tell us that:

Each "crisis," needs billions of US taxes, to pay for "solutions!"
Being "global problems," we need a “One World Government,” or "Globalization," to deal with each global problem or “crisis.”
And that global taxes should be collected by Global IRS*15 type UN organizations to distribute funds to those who are appointed to deal with each "crisis."16

Media used to prime & convince the masses:

We're told that World War 1 was “the war to end all wars!”

It was actually an opportunity & excuse used by earlier globalists to build “the old Order!” You can't have a New World Order, if there wasn't earlier attempts, such as the “world government” sought by founders of “the League of Nations.”17

We're told that World War 2 was a “war fought to protect & preserve our liberties!” A “war against the Axis Powers, (Italy, Japan & Germany), who was seeking to use force to establish a "New Order in Europe!"18

This war was used by globalists as another step towards a "New World Order!" Get us in bed with communist Russia as allies against Nazis socialists! Where world plotters would again:

Keep global war machines, or “industrial military complex,” going.

Fuel, supply, & fund both sides of another “managed conflict!”

Get nations in debt to them as they made billions in profits & further established, or created world corporations. To further regulate "the international monetary & financial order after the conclusion of WW2." As planned at Mount Washington Hotel, in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire.

It was used to create a world government with the UN's creation, 1945.19

1945 to present, New World Order puppets were placed in United Nations, & in U.S. government positions, such as “the State Department,“ & as “agents of influence,” where they worked out “rules of engagement” during the following wars, that favored communists, rather than U.S. troops. Thus, "prolonged wars," continued to sap the blood of our nations' youth, tax payers, & moral as rules of engagement continued to create "no win wars!"20

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The birth of "Unions," such as European Union, a super state, one in a number of states, for World Government!

1917-1991, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR, or Soviet Union, was one of the globalists' first UNIONS.

Adolf Hitler said that National Socialism would help build a "New Order," or "New World Order." His unpublished book, New World Order, 1928, if authentic, tells how he sought the Unification of Europe.21

What Hitler attempted, by force of arms to do, was later done by treaties!

1939, Clarence K. Streit, foreign correspondent for The New York Times, covering League of Nations activities from 1929-1939; wrote Union Now, a book advocating a gradual approach through regional unions to final world union!

1945, "The World Federalist Movement advocated the introduction of world citizenship and a union of all democratic countries

1945, Arab League is formed, as a step towards Arab Union.

September 19, 1946, at the University of Zurich, former Prime Minister of England, Winston Churchill, pro New World Order, spoke of "European unity." Proposing ‘a kind of United States of Europe’ with a "Council of Europe."

1944-57, numerous "Unions" & councils & conventions, hammered out one treaty, trade & aid agreements after another. North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), 4 April 1949; Assembly of the Council of Europe. Nov. 1950, European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, steps towards the super state European court system.

1954-55, the first Bilderberg meetings of globalists, worked out ways to bring about treaties that would become steps towards a European Union, & with money called the euro!

1957 signing of Treaty of Rome, created European Economic Community, which paved ways for European Union = EU, one of the super states with in World Government. Maastricht Treaty (formally, the Treaty on European Union, TEU) was signed on 2-7-1992 & entered into force on 11-1-1993, creating the now European Union and led to the creation of the euro. Another, was the Lisbon Treaty.

1967, Association of Southeast Asian Nations, (ASEAN), was formed from 10 countries in Southeast Asia.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), 2001.

2002, African Union, consisting of 53 African States is established, 9 July 2002.

2006-2008, Union of South American Nations, steps towards the South American Union.

Mid-19th century to 2010, numerous concepts for a union between Canada, Mexico & United States, have been proposed. On January 1, 1994, is another globalist step called" North American Free Trade Agreement, NAFTA, & is believed to be a step towards the North American Union!

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http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=6750B5140A060634

New World Money Orders, Coup to Kill & Cover Up JFK Murder

Early 1960s, John F. Kennedy, Council of Foreign Relations or CFR member, at first seems to work towards "New World Order," which even Robert Kennedy spoke in favor of:

May 18, 1961, JFK hints to a North American Union type, in speaking at House of Commons, Ottawa Canada: That Mexico, USA & Canada should work towards "Union," or better "inter-American partnerships," in "inter-American affairs," as part of an "inter-American community."22

But then something seems to have changed his thinking; for he turned on the globalists & started undoing Federal Reserve Act, that they sneaked through Congress 12-24-1913, when most of Congress were away for Christmas break.

He signs Executive Order 11110 & had printed up 4.3 billions in Silver certificates, instead of FED notes.23

JFK started to pull troops out of Nam.24 (Nat'l Security Action Memo 263. JFK's 10/63 plan to withdraw).

JFK is alleged to have said that he'd smash the CIA into a thousand pieces. If so, this must have troubled the CIA.25

JFK fires Allen Dulles from CIA in 1961 over false flag Operation Northwoods, which was covert ops against Castro's communized Cuba.

July 29, 1921, CFR officially formed with admitted goal to abolish Constitution & replace our once independent Republic with a World Government.26

1926, Allen Dulles joins CFR & later became its president.

11-26-1963, LBJ puts Allen on the Warren Commission to investigate JFK assassination, ironic!27

Other New World Order dots & connections are how John J. McCloy, CFR, World "Bankster," is put on Warren Commission, which was to investigate & report on their findings concerning JFK's murder. McCoy is alleged to have influenced, behind the scenes, different media outlets to go along with the lone gunman theory.28

Gerald Ford was selected for the Warren Commission by President Lyndon B. Johnson, 11-1963.

Ford becomes President after Richard Nixon resigned, 8-9-1974, due to the Watergate scandal. Nixon often talked about a New World Order! During a Banquet for Premier Chou En-lai in Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China, 2-25-1972! Nixon said of China & USA, that even though they have differences, they should work together "to build a New World Order."29

Ford pardons Nixon, 9-8-1974, Proclamation 4311. Ford, 8-20-1974, nominates former New York Governor, Nelson A. Rockefeller, (1908-1979), who's seeks a New World Order, & said, in an address at BYU, Marriott Center, 10-2-1974 (?): "And we have to work with the big communist nations. They're in this world. They have a different philosophy. But also we have common, general common objectives. And I say on a cooperative basis we can reflect our long term mutual best interests. And if that's the best way to go about it; and that's the only basis, for peace & prosperous around the world." 30

Nixon makes George Herbert Walker Bush, with oil connections, Ambassador to United Nations, 1971. Ford, 1976, makes Bush Director of CIA. Bush become Vice Pres., 1981-1989. And president, 1989-93, & openly, in several talks in 1991, shows he's pro "New World Order," & is working towards it, by working to bring about another treaty, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), a step towards a North American Union! 31

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Global Warming scam:

1964, Report from Iron Mountain shows how globalist "think tanks" came up with another alleged or manufactured crisis! How they use pollution & "over population" to introduce a world tax & regulate population growth. Thus, the birth of "Earth Day," "Green Earth," & globalists' environmental movements' push towards a "New World Order" was introduced through New Age beliefs. Also, global warming scams & World Carbon Taxes were born. It's still being pushed in schools & taught to kids by teachers who guilt trip kids' use of cell phones, leaving on the lights, etc.32

1970s, we're told there's a “fuel shortage,” called "the energy crisis!" It was another manufactured "crisis" by Globalists & world oil corporations, where by they jacked up prices & made billions! Jimmy Carter, to Chicago CFR members, May 1976: We seek “a just & stable INTERNATIONAL ORDER."33

1960s to present, we had "the war on drugs!" It's been used to confiscate private property, & many, not all, in the corrupt legal system, takes advantage of it to rob many of their cash, properties, freedom & other things.34

Communist Manifesto says that "private property must be abolished"! Another says: "Confiscation of the property of all emigrants & rebels."35 So are the "assets forfeiture seizer laws," the legal loop holes being used to fulfill such things?

September 1990, George Bush, to United Nations, repeated 5 times to thunderous applause: “We are moving to a New World Order!”36

1990s, during Desert Storm, gulf war, Pres. Bush, sir., 9-11-1991 basically told us that “what is at stake,” is a “big idea” a “New World Order!” Where their dreams of world government, as envisioned by the global elites who founded the U.N., could further their “peace keeping role” to police the world!37

3-6-1991, why did Bush, as pres., have U.S. & U.N. arm forces pounce on Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, for beating up on his neighbor, Kuwait, rich in oil, while seemingly he ignores the slaughters going on in the Baltic states? Romania, the “ethnic cleansing!?” Was this because it was helping to reduce world population, as other globalists want?

As Vice Pres., appointed #1 drug cop, Bush also did very little about Burma's drug lord, Khun Sa's offer, to help stop the flow of heroin in the USA, as highly decorated Vietnam war vet, Bog Grites alleges & complains, in 1988.38

David B. Funderburk, Former Ambassador to Romania, also alleges that as globalists were standing by as many were being murdered in the Baltic States & China! Billions of dollars worth of U.S. tax dollars, aid, resources, technologies, weaponry & military secrets were going, with Bush's blessings, to communist USSR & China!39

1990s, Bush’s & communist leader, Gorbachev both spoke of their goals for a “new world order!”40

Why was Saddam left in power? Was it so baby Bush could have his own little war game too? We were told that “terrorists” attacked the world trade towers & pentagon, on 9-11-2001. Was this tragic event used to bring in the Patriot Act, a bill that no one in Congress could have read, cause it was printed in the early morning hours before they were to vote on it?! And which was rushed through, with fear & scare tactics, in the name of giving up many of our civil liberties for immediate solutions to threats to National Security?!41 Used to get us into another pro-longed war? Used as another step towards New World Order?

2008, did a monetary crisis, with big "bankster" bail outs & scares of failing markets, create another step towards World Order? Globalists are out to convince us that U.S. dollars are no longer the best in “World Market”! That “world bank” "solutions!" in the North American Community's monetary crisis, can only be solved through a global system, or at least something like the “Amero”?!42

Tactics: How Globalists are destroying the Constitution!

Global Taxes

Constitution, Section 9: Limits on Congress: "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."

Do globalists in US Government positions pay attention to this part of the constitution? If so, then why are billions of dollars being sap & sucked into the World Bank, or IMF?

Why are US tax payers funding, through foreign aid, countries that hate the USA? Why are billions going to pay the bills of the United Nations, which is communist dominated, & where the USA's single vote counts for nothing, most of the time?! Why will the USA be one of the main countries taxed by the global warming "scammers," if the world carbon tax is ever enforced by the Global IRS?43 The Communist Manifesto reads: "A heavy progressive or gradual income tax." (The Communist Manifesto, p. 74, #2). 44

Constitution, Article. V. - Amendment

"Congress, whenever 2/3 of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of 2/3 of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution..."

How Globalists are altering the constitution!

I suspect the reason why globalists' & their puppets in Congress & the Senate, don't want bills read; or people to find out what's in them, before they're past. Is this! They're altering the constitution through the amendment procedures, provided in the constitution; to set the USA up for a "new constitution," globalists' constitution! Or "World Constitution," worked out in globalists' meetings, 1950s!

This happened in ancient America too, for different ones noted how wicked people had infiltrated the government and how "they had altered & trampled under their feet the laws... and they saw that their laws had become corrupted, & that they had become a wicked people...." (Book of Mormon, Helaman 4:22).

Concerning globalists' European Union by treaties, such as Lisbon Treaty; Paul Watson notes the tactics used. How globalists weren't honest & not transparent about how it. He cites Gestardestine (spelling ?): "Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly!"

Factions in the USA's government also use this same tactics, for they present thousands of pages of bills, never read by Congress, but which become laws. Then after they're signed into law, they are exposed as to how deceptive & dangerous they are, how power is being taken away from the people & give to the elite few, the globalists!

Congressman, John Conyers, (D) Michigan, admits: "We don't read most of the bills."

2004, Obama: "When you rush these budgets that are a foot high & nobody has any idea what's in them & no body has read them."45 But then he changes tactics in as Pres. in 2010, with the Health care bill, telling demanding of Congress: "Now is the time for you to step up, too"!

How can Congress & the Senate know the "intents" & "purposes" of bills thousands of pages long? Especially, if they don't bother to read them, as some have admitted!?
Or don't get a chance to!
Or when pages are taken out, or hundreds of pages are added at the last moments before they are voted on?
Or of which "intents" & "purposes," are not clear because of thousands of pages of legal lingo?

1- December 23, 1913, Christmas break, Federal Reserve Act.46

2- After World War 2, in 1945, alleged communist spy, Alger Hiss, CFR, presented to the Senate, the United Nations Charter, which they signed "with not so much as even reading it!"

3- The Patriot Act! 2001. Was another that was rushed through, & which was revised & printed & copied in the early morning hours, before Congress was to vote on it. Thus, Rep. Peter A. Defazio (D) Oregon, noted that his copy "was still warm," & that it "just came off the xerox machine," so he demanded "give us the weekend to read it," & warned that "these are our civil liberties" at stake, that they were "critical issues!"47

4- 2009, Stimulus Bill, $790 billion! Sen. Frank Lautenberg D- NJ, predicted that none of his Senate colleagues would "have the chance" to read the entire final version of the bill before the final vote!

5- The 1,200 page Climate Bill, 300 pages being added 3:00 AM, Friday. Summer, 2009. Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, Minority Leader, 8th District - West Chester, Troy, try to read part of it to Congress, & pontificated about what it could, or could not mean, with all the obscure languages that was in it. Boehner said, holding up a copy: "Here we are with 1100 pages... not one member of this body has even read!"48

6- Health Care Bill, 2010, final version reported as about 2,500 pages long!? Who in Congress got a chance to even read this version? R-Indiana, 5th District, Indianapolis, Marion, Rep. Dan Burton objects how the almost 2000 paged version of "the Pelosi Health Care Bill," hasn't been read! He says: "1,990 pages! Nobody in this place has even come close to reading it!" After he plops it down, he continues: "In addition to that, it costs 2.25 million dollars per word! There are almost 3,500 shalls in there, & a shall is a mandate that Congress do something! Nobody's read this thing! It's going to cost all this money! Members of the Congress, can exempt themselves from being involved in the public option." He goes on to say how it's a terrible, terrible bill that should be defeated!
House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), tells us "But we have to pass the bill so that you can, ahh, find out what is in it."49

Pass it first, then read it? What the crap!

A new Bill, called "Don't Read This!" should be rushed or sneak through under the same tactics, so Congress, Senators & Presidents & their administrations can taste their own dung, passed off as medicine, for the good of the masses. Make it 10,000 pages long that repeats our demands that:

Because many in Congress & Senate continue to pass gas & crappy bills that benefits themselves, because they sold their votes in back bathroom lobby deals!
There shall no bill be past that destroys the constitution! Any past or future bills shall be voided as the constitution is restored!
No bills passed that are clouded as to their "intents" & "purposes," with endless legal lingo, thousands of unread pages long.
No bills shall be passed that also exempts government leaderships of what's in them!
A probationary period of 2 years shall experiment & test the constitutionality of the bills, with Congress, the Senate & Presidential administrations, as the rats to be tested on!

By this, we'll see how they like their own medicine, & will see if this breaks many of them of their unconstitutional tactics; bad & lazy habits, of not reading "most of the bills"!

Thomas P. Kilgannon, 2006, Diplomatic Divorce, Why America Should End Its Love Affair With the United Nations, p. 29, (chap. 2), says that those who run the International Criminal Court = ICC, themselves, will enjoy immunity from "every form of legal process."

It's like how Al Gore & the Green Earthers, tell everyone to ride bikes, so as to cut down on "your carbon footprint," to save the planet. But then, their actions suggest they think they're immune, or above the law, as they fly around in their private jets!

Factions in Government passing special interest groups' loppy deals?

"We fear that there is some faction in the Government" that is seeking to rule & destroy the freedoms of all! (Book of Mormon, Alma 58:36, 61:3-4).

There's a "certain faction in London" which says that the world is breaking down financially, and financial systems are going to blow their tops, but we will be at the top of the heap.50

George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress, 1957: If "...the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election.... It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic & social independence of the United States!" Richard N. Gardner, in Foreign Affairs, April 1974: "In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built form the bottom up rather than from the top down. To use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run round national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more that the old-fashioned frontal assault."

Craig B. Hulet on KTKK 630 AM radio, "K-Talk," Salt Lake City, Utah area, about late 1980s early 1990s (?). He warns that: "They are going to one day, if they can, create a world regime, they call it the global regime. It will be done by a strategy of 'interdependence!" And if they can do it, they will be in charge of it. It's a matter of the status quo wanting to keep getting the billions of dollars of productivity in the west.... The very same men put together an organization in Washington D.C., some years ago, called the 'Committee for Constitutional Systems Review,' they are working very hard to so alter the constitution to accept through the amendment procedures, provided in the constitution, a new constitution! It will not be the constitution that we have learned to live with!"51

The globalists have continued to do this, in how they sneak through, or rush through thousand paged bills & acts that no one reads, & which signed into law, becomes constitutional changing elements that are eroding piece by piece, the original constitution!52

Obama, in Prague, Claims We Need A Global Regime: He mentions how, "the WORLD must stand together to prevent the spread of these [nukes] weapons. Now's the time for a stronger INTERNATIONAL response!" [to North Korea's Nuke threats]. Obama also said: "...All nations must come together to build a stronger GLOBAL REGIME!"53

June 12, 1998, Friday, during a radio interview on “K-talk,” KTKK, 630 AM Radio, Salt Lake City, Utah. Jack Stockwell show.54 A woman, who has done research into world economics, gave this warning. She said that for the last 15 to 20 years or so, there has been “an intense push around the world to have this globalized economy, which has been against the sovereign interests of nations and peoples. So you have “free trade” which has really been “raped trade.” Those who seeking for a global economic system are getting involved in food chains, food production, oil, transportation, the stock market, water supplies, and many other things. Further on she went on to point out that “...we have become Food import dependent in many ways because of this 15 or 20 years of rigged free trade.” She also says that there is this view by a faction in London which says that the world is breaking down financially, and financial systems are going to blow their tops, but we will be at the top of the heap. She also mentions a book that came out of London: "Blood In The Streets: Investment Profits In A World Gone Mad", by James Dale Davidson and Sir William Rees-Mogg, Warner Books, 1987. This book brings out this view held by this faction in which they say that they will own the water supplies, meat supplies, the grain, the medicines, the iron, & the steel, etc. She also warned that the One World Economists behind getting a ONE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION going, are also behind big merging deals. For they’re merging food corporations together, and are buying up food supplies, and productions “...in preparation for the kind of break down and boarder less world... [in which nations will have] no national sovereignty.” And where they will be able to control basic food supplies and distributions, such as wheat and beef.

Jeffrey T. Kuhner: “Socialism is the road to economic ruin and fiscal bankruptcy. It subverts democracy, threatening the very future of our constitutional republic. Socialist states degenerate into some form of autocracy or technocratic neo-feudalism, whereby the productive class is taxed and exploited to sustain a growing dependent class. Factions are pitted against each other; groups vie for handouts at the expense of their fellow citizens. The bonds of economic union and national solidarity slowly dissolve.” Defense of the Republic, Article: Faction May Be Downfall of Republic, Friday, March 26th, 2010 Inconsistencies!

Some Globalists sneak in different constitutional destroying Acts, but then disobey the Acts that challenge their global agendas. The Sherman Act 1890, for example, challenged Rockefellers' global oil corporation, Standard Oil, etc.

If the globalist are not obeying the good Acts, why should we have to obey the bad ones? Like the Patriot Acts 1 & 2? The Federal Reserve Act? Etc. Or the acts & bills that aren't read, or that are 500, 1100, or 2500 pages or so long like the Carbon tax bill & present Health Care Bill is said to be?55

The globalists create a media blitz to sugar coat the destroying of the constitution with the passing of these types of bills! Thus, they name these bills with patriot, freedom loving sounding names, or titles that sound like they are for the good of the people, when they're not! Thus, corrupt leaders then make it sound like if you don't go along with these bills, your "unpatriotic," or against the peoples' basic needs, or not for doing something about the "problems!" or "crisis!" Such names as: "Uniting and Strengthening America," another name for "The Patriot Act," or protective sounding titles like "The Environmental Protection Agency!" Etc. 56

False Promises & Global Bondage: Answer to objections!

"Well," some might say: "Aren't you for Patriotism, freedom, & protecting the nations against terrorists?"

Yes! But not through passing of acts that challenge our civil liberties & that include pages & print outs printed hours before they are to be voted on! Pages Congress didn't get a chance to read, or bother reading! Where we're also told that to protect our freedoms, we have to give up some of our civil liberties! NO Thank you to more governmental snooping around into our private lives, to more government control & increased taxes!

WHEN THE STATE TAKES OVER!

"Well," says another: "Aren't you for helping the poor & those who can't afford Health insurance?"

Yes! I like feeding the poor! US! But let me give out of the kindness of my heart, out of love, not through forced “Collectivization," type tactics, like what happened in communist Russia under Stalin! 57

Put in jail for not having "health insurance"? How ironic, when in jail you get health care coverage, medical & dental care through tax payers! So what's the point?

"Well," says another: "Aren't you for cleaning up the air, preserving earth's resources, endangered inscets & other critters of the forests & streams?

Yes! But not when globalists use fear tactics, global scams, manufactured or manipulated scientific data to claim global warming will destroy our globe if we continue to drive our gas run cars! And that we need to have a world carbon emissions tax to deal with alleged problems!58

More Inconsistencies!

It sounds like a bunch of "hot air" too when we see the same globalists' connections with global gas engines & oil manufacturing corporations! (Antonia Juhasz, The Tyranny of Oil )

Plus, how those who push the now exposed global warming scam continue to fly around in their private jets, (like globalist, Al Gore), & who continue to drive, or are driven in their gas guzzling, air polluting cars & limos! Who also live in several large homes; while they tell everyone else to ride bikes! And as Sheryl Crow says, we should "use only 1 square of toilet paper"! 59

Smells of bull crap in all these globalist scare tactics! Keep in mind too, that some are concerned, that farmers' cows' & other animals' emissions are to also be regulated & taxed! While green Earthers' sources say that even though farm animals "emissions" do "contribute to climate change" 25%! The EPA = Environmental Protection Agency, "won't regulate cow burps"! 60

So while Al Gore & other global warming alarmists tell us they're going to global tax us for ours' & our cars' emissions! They seem to think they're above the law in how they don't practice what they preach!

Moreover! If there's an endangered species threatened in the world environment, it's humanity! For inconsistently, globalists tell us that we have to save little critters from our emissions, by an ever increasing UN controlled over US State Parks, woods & water ways! While mothers' wombs continue to becomes little critters' tombs, as billions of U.S. tax payers' money goes to kill off millions of unborn humans, before they can take their first breath of life! "Justified" Because they "have no rights," they're not being human yet! Globalists vilify them as unhuman fetuses, that are like feces, to be thrown away, flushed down the bio hazard waist containers!61

Inconsistently, a pregnant woman was jailed for being a crack mother, endangering her unborn, contributing to a minor. While in prison, if she were to demand an abortion at US tax payers expense, they'd have to honor her "right" to murder her unborn! In other words, it's bad for her to have subjected her unborn to crack, but O.K. to kill "it!"62

Summations:

WAKE UP AMERICA! For the constitution is now hanging by a thread, because of those who seek to establish the super state with in the “One World Government,” called the “North American Union.” This, according to the globalists, is to be like the “South American Union,” & "European Union." The laws, money system, constitution, bill of rights, economics, trade, etc., will be changed as it is thus placed under a world court system, world health organization, world banking system, “world economic order,” or New World Order. The United Nations’ arm forces progressively built up, while the nations are disarmed, are so done, since 1961 plans presented to the UN. Nations are disarmed so as to “not be able to challenged the progressively strengthened United Nations Peace Force.” Wake up America!63

A CONSITUTION RESTORATION ACT NEEDED!

The constitution restoration act or Constitution Restoration Amendment ought to include things like the following:

Any past, present & future amendments, bills, acts or treaties that chips away, damages, or are exposed as intended to be made for the destruction of the constitution, national sovereignty & bill of rights; shall be voided out, invalidated! Starting with:

1. Voiding out & recalling of the Federal Reserve Act, 1913.

2. Reversing the signing of the United Nations' Charter by the Senate, 1945, "Get the US out of the UN & the UN out of the US!"

3. Void our & recall The Patriot Act! 2001.

4. Void out & recall the Stimulus Bill, $790 billion! 2009.

5. Void out & expose the scams & scammers behind the Climate Bill, Cap & Trade.

6. Void out & recall the Health Care Bill, 2010.

7. Void out & recall the signing of North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).

8. Void out & recall any & all executive orders that has been signed, past, present & future; that challenges, or destroys the constitution!

9. Void out & recall any treaties that have been signed, or will be, for bringing the USA into a North American Union, or anything like it!

10. All these treasonous actions by political leaders, shall be voided out, & those that have broken their oaths to defend the constitution, impeached, brought to trial, (not pardon, like in the case with how Ford pardons Nixon, 9-8-1974, Proclamation 4311).

No more campaigning, where only the super rich become known because of how they have the contributions, campaign funds, or their funding to pay for ads, etc. Have 2 or 3 days set aside for mass communication exposures of candidates, where the nations gets to hear an extensive background check done on each person running. Verify the drug testing done, (the average American is often tested before & during employment, so why shouldn't those who run for the highest offices in the land also be tested?). Extensive time given to also cross examine them on issues; test their knowledge of the constitution, bill of rights & national sovereignty. Take away politicians being bought & ending up in the pockets of campaigner contributors, who say: "OK we got you in, now this is how we want you to vote!"

Take away the backroom & bathroom dealings & lobby deals by doing extensive background checks on possible conflict of interest cases; where politicians pushing the different bills, stand to bank on them. If you sale your vote,your fired!

We need to fire all the politicians that are sneaking in thousands of paged bills, sneaking & rushing them in without letting congress & senate read them.
Rights shall be restored, no longer licensed as "privileges" granted by & under the controls of the all powerful State!

These are just a few suggestions on getting our country back on course & starting towards restoring the constitution, bill of rights & national sovereignty. I would open for suggestions on other things that could be included.

Calling All Patriots (Brother & Sisters Together), lyrics by DT, 3-19-2009, rough draft (subject to possible changes); released on You Tube, sung by & performed 3-2009, by Covert Cosmic Cruisers:

"Calling all Patriots! Brothers & sisters of humanity!
Gather together in defense of liberty!

Uphold that old document called the constitution!
Being right with God, we'll fear not death in defense of our free institutions!

For why should we worry if we're called heaven bound!
As martyrs for freedom to receive the glorious crown!

To join with the heavenly armies of angels when Christ returns!
Who with his might & power the wicked burns!

Starting with Congress, that should be fired!
Good, honest & moral people hired!

Calling all to work on spirituality!
Calling all to set aside materiality!

For what doth it profit if we gain materiality?
But fail in spirituality?

For what doth it profit if in gaining the whole world one looses their soul?
The enemies of freedom want the world, it's been their ancient goal!

Calling all Patriots & brothers!
Calling all Patriots, sisters & mothers!

Calling all patriots, fathers & sons!
Calling all lands to join as one!

Not to join under the flag of tyranny!
But rally under the flag of liberty!

Rally no more under false Patriots' banners!
Change your bad habits & bad manners!

Up hold the constitution as the new flag for the globe!
Not the UN, New World Order, we've been sold!

Calling on all humanity, North, East, South & West!
Calling forth all of your best!

From your masters all be free!
Rally under the constitutional banner of liberty!"

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Latter-day Conservative

SEEING A WORLD ORDER HIDDEN IN THE MOSAICS OF WORLD HISTORY

End Notes:

*1- See: Topix: Constitution is Hanging by a Thread, Joseph Smith was Right! Also: Richard Vetterli, The Constitution by a Thread, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Paramount Publishers, 1967); "The Naked Communist" by Cleon Skousen). Topix: Why Aren't All Nations Free? Freedom Should Be For Free! ). And: Alex Jones, Terror Storm And: Awake & Arise And: Ezra Taft Benson, The Constitution-- A Heavenly Banner, Sept. 16, 1986; The Book of Mormon Warns America, May 21, 1968. Anthony J. Hilder, Illuminati. And: LDS first prophet, Joseph Smith Jr., contemporary account, from a discourse, July 19, 1840: "...Even this Nation will be on the very verge of crumbling to pieces and tumbling to the ground and when the constitution is upon the brink of ruin this people will be the Staff upon which the Nation shall lean and they shall bear away the constitution away from the very verge of destruction..." Constitution to Hang by a Thread. And: Ezra Taft Benson: The Book of Mormon Warns America And:

*2- "We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995), CFR publication.
"The "new world order" involves the elimination of the sovereignty and independence of nation-states and some form of world government. This means the end of the United States of America, the U.S. Constitution, and the Bill of Rights as we now know them. Most of the new world order proposals involve the conversion of the United Nations and its agencies to a world government, complete with a world army, a world parliament, a world court, global taxation, and numerous other agencies to control every aspect of human life (education, nutrition, health care, population, immigration, communications, transportation, commerce, agriculture, finance, the environment, etc.). The various notions of the "new world order" differ as to details and scale, but agree on the basic principle and substance." Still Don't Believe In the New World Order? And: Nixon down to Obama, Many Presidents speak of NWO!

3- In force, Oct. 24, 1945, a charter was drafted earlier and is established. Alleged communist spy, Alger Hiss, presents an unread charter to Congress, who approved it. Because of This Secret Combination #2 Congress Passing Bills & Acts they Don't Read! Maron Fagon (#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 ), tells how Alger Hiss, CFR, High up in the State Department, in 1945, presents United Nations' Charter to Senate, who "signed the Charter without so much as reading it!" See also: Ezra Taft Benson, Evidence That The Constitution Is Hanging By A Thread #20 LDS Apostle, Ezra Taft Benson, Vietnam – Victory Or Surrender, (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University/Electronic Media Department, Recording Operations Section/Room E-366 HFAC; BYU Devotional address given during the Vietnam war, tape K1389; Hear Benson in You Tube: New World Order, Early Christian Orders, Mason & Mormons (2) And: #3 See also: Benson, talk BYU in 1966, "Our Immediate Responsibility." And: Topix, link list: North American Union & Joseph Smith's Prophecy that the Constitution would hang by a thread! And: Thomas P. Kilgannon, Diplomatic Divorce, Why America Should End Its Love Affair With The United Nations, (GA: Stroud & Hall Publishers, 2006); Richard Vetterli, The Constitution by a Thread, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Paramount Publishers, 1967).
Ever increasing all poweriful United Nations "Peace Force," to disarm the nations, including the U.S., while building up their abilities to Police the World, according to: Freedom From War, The United States Program For General & Complete Disarmament In A Peaceful World, Department of State, Pub. 7277, Disarmament Series 5, Sept. 1961. Gary H. Kah, En Route to Global Occupation, (Layfayette, Louisiana: Huntington House Publishers, 1991); Robert W. Lee, The United Nations Conspiracy, (Boston; Los Angeles: Western Islands Publishers, 1981). You Tube: Evidence that the Constitution is Hanging by a Thread, #4

4- Thomas P. Kilgannon, Diplomatic Divorce, Why America Should End Its Love Affair with the United Nations, (GA: Stroud & Hall Publishers, 2006), p. 20-42. See also: Walter Cronkite receiving the World Federalist Association Award, and giving his speech and opinion on forming a Global Community. While introducing Walter Cronkite, a we hear the World Federalist Association president says: "World Government is the structure necessary for Global Justice." A World Court system & "World Government." You Tube: NWO and Walter Cronkite the Right Hand of Satan And: Walter Cronkite receives "Global Governance Award" from WFA
Globalist, David Rockefeller, is reported to have said: "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

5- July 1944, UN Monetary & Financial Conference, Bretton Woods. You Tube: New world order is the endgame, says glenn beck

6- Kilgannon, Diplomatic Divorce, p.46-62; Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, (Rossmoor, California: Concord Press, 1971 & 1972), p. 74, see note 18 on p. 215: Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand, p. 196; Chuck Smith, (Christian minister), talk entitled: What in the World is Happening?, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Fire Fighters for Christ, tape series). Dan Smoot, The Invisible Government, (Dallas, Texas: The Dan Smoot Report, Inc., 1962). David Wilkerson, America's Last Call, On The Brink of A Financial Holocaust, (Texas: Wilkerson Trust Publications, 2009). Anthony J. Hilder, talk show host of Radio Free World, (Nevada), during the 1990's, he interviewed Terry Cook about 666 The Mark of the Beast. During this show they talked about the Federal Reserve’s plans to print new money for the coming New World Order. Also: Chuck Smith, a Christian preacher’s talk entitled: What in the World is Happening, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Fire Fighters for Christ, tape series).
In 1904, John Moody, even though he himself was “a celebrant of this new economic order,” he notes how the Rockefeller and Morgan groups’ money gave them extensive political and economical powers. How that their networking arteries and influences had spread forth to influence our whole national life, and “every home and hamlet...” Peter Collier, and David Horowitz, The Rockefellers, An American Dynasty, (New York, New York: A Signet Book, New American Library, Times Mirror, 1976), p. 44: John Moody, The Truth About the Trusts, (1904). John A. Stormer, None Dare Call It Treason, Florissant, Missouri: Liberty Bell Press, 1964; Stormer, The Death of a Nation, Florissant, Missouri: Liberty Bell Press, 1968.

7- WHO World Health Organization, claims at their web page that: "Climate change impacting world health," claiming that "Scientific evidence strongly suggests that climate change has enormous & diverse effects on human health." However, we know through recent developments, that the whole climate issue & global warming is a scam! See: You Tube playlist: Climategate Gadianton Robbers Global Warming Tax Gains

8- Dr. Leonard Horowitz has been exposing the globalists' plots to bring about "universal health care," in the "world order," or 1 World Government. Health Care Reform Fraud See also: In Lies We Trust: The CIA, Hollywood, and Bioterrorism And: Big Bucks, Big Pharma: Marketing Disease & Pushing Drugs, Directed by Ronit Ridberg

9- Cliff Kincaid, Global Taxe$ for World Government, (Louisianna: Huntington House Publisers, 1997), p.103-125. The Environmental Protection Agency = EPA, claims they want to protect different endangered animal, insect, plant & bird species. While, ironically, the human family remains an endangered species! (DT, Endanger Species: Humanity, (Utah: R.H. & P.S., 1999). Endangered through population reduction & forced birth control policies of globalists' ideologies; who preach & predict of coming forced abortions, forced sterilization, restrictions of movement & living space, etc. You Tube: New World Money Order$ 2:4 More on Population Control & Reduction as Globalists' "Final Solution!"
In favor of this, former US Defense Secretary, & former World Bank President, Robert Strange McNamara, about 1984, on commenting about how he was involved with the International Conference on Population, Mexico City, Aug. 6-14. 1984; he said on a radio show: That to solve the "crisis" & "problems" of increased world population, we'll eventually have to resort to "coercive policies," that will take away many of our individual freedoms!
McNamara: "And I predict if we continue as we are, by the end of this century, there will be ahh, wide spread adoption of coercive policies, national coercive policies restricting the FREEDOM of individual ahh, leading for example [to] forced sterilization, restricting movements royal to urban areas! And stimulating what I call 'brutal family practices,' high rates of abortion! And high rates of female infamicide! That's what lie ahead of us; that's what lies ahead of the world, unless we ahh deal with more effectively with this problem!" (You Tube, Justin Martyr Jr., video documentary series: New World Money Order$ 2:1 Population Reductions as "Final Solution," Billions to Die! Part 2 Part 3 ). And: Better for All the World: The Secret History of Forced Sterilization and America's Quest for Racial Purity by Harry Bruinius. And: Milton William Cooper, Behold a Pale Horse. Bob Salter warned of this on different radio shows during late 1970s through 80s). Thus, also the basic unit of our societies, the family, is under attack too, as 1 child policies forced upon families in China, is said to be the example & pattern & State run experiment to be enforced on the world under the ideology of globalists' world population control. You Tube play list: Alex Jones Warns of Global Government, New World Order See: End Game And:

10- Kincaid, Global Tax$, p. 103-25. You Tube: Lindsey Williams Torn From The Land. With the take over, through endless red tap, government loans that US farmers have trouble paying back; & ever increasing taxes & regulations, & carbon emission taxes, of US farms, & farmers. Plus with, the Environmental Protection Agency = EPA, & UN run agencies & world tax collections made by militant global IRS type globalist bureaucrats! The globalist seek to control the people by controlling the food, transportation, oil & other resources.
1976, Gary Allen warned that those who seek to establish the New World Order, also seek to control the people by controlling the world’s food supplies, manufacturing, and distribution. During the Nixon Administration, Henry Kissinger, CFR, has declared that one of his goals is “to create a “New World Order.” Paul Scott, notes Allen, says that Kissinger beliefs, according to his aides, that “by controlling food, one can control people, and by controlling energy, especially oil, one can control nations and their financial systems.” Further on Allen warns that the Rockefeller gang through their agents like Kissinger, seek to get around national sovereignty by controlling food. CFR’s Richard Gardner hopes that nations will surrender their national sovereignty because they will have to come to the “world government” whom they have come to depend on for food, etc. Thus, Allen warns that: “One of the most obvious back-door approaches to World Order is through the control of food. They ploy is to establish a World Food Bank...” Other men in high political positions have been pushing for the establishment of an a World Food Bank, some of which includes many CFR members. President Jerry Ford, according to Paul Scott, has put his stamp of approval on Kissinger’s push towards the coming New World Order. “By calling for the development of a global strategy and policy for food and oil within the structure of the United Nations, the President clearly signaled his acceptance of the “new international order” being sought by Kissinger.”
These people are connected with people like George Bush, who has said publically, that they are seeking to establish a New World Order. (See: Gary Allen, The Rockefeller File, (Seal Beach, California: ’76 Press, 1976), p. 126-32; The LDS Apostle, Ezra Taft Benson, October 1972 General Conference. Ezra Taft Benson, The Red Carpet, (Monarch Books, Inc.), pp. 34—36; Benson, An Enemy Hath Done This, p. 74, 102, 251. John A. Stormer, None Dare Call It Treason, 1964. Marsha (?), interviewed on “K-talk” KTKK 630 AM Radio, Salt Lake City, Utah, June 12, 1998, Friday morning. You Tube: Evidence that the Constitution is Hanging By A Thread #18
State run farms failed to produce enough food during the days of forced "collectivization" under communist tyrant, Joseph Stalin, 1930, when his armies gathered up, searched & took by force, the peasants farming tools & produce. It resulted in a manufactured famine, by deliberate starvation of peasants, in which millions died of starvation, some resorting to cannibalism! (You Tube: New World Money Order$ 2:6, Communists' Population Reduction "Final Solution," Millions Have Died! See also: Harun Yahya, The Bloody History Of Communism Also watch on You Tube. On Topix, link list page: Food & Farmers under the gun to pay additional taxes & fees! Torn from the Land, Lindsey Williams Thomas P. Kilgannon, 2006, Diplomatic Divorce, Why America Should End Its Love Affair With the United Nations.

11- See also: New World Order Treason Watch And: Latter-Day Conservative And: W. Cleon Skousen, A History of Secret Combinations Taped radio interview on "K-Talk" 630 AM radio in Salt Lake City, Utah. On December 18, 1988, Constance Cumbey was interviewed by Mills Crenshaw. She warned about those seeking to bring about a New World Order through the New Age Movement & Environmental movements, "earth day," etc. Evidence that the Constitution is Hanging by a Thread, #5 And: Dr. Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope reveals a call of Cecil Rhodes for an "American Union" by Rei Murasame, Sept. 6, 2008. And: Global Governance

Notes:

12- You Tube: Global Conquests: Globalists Quest For World Government - World Orders And: Prof. Anthony Sutton. How the Order Creates War and Revolution (1985).

13- Antonia Juhasz, The Tyranny of Oil, The World's Most Powerful Industry-- And What We Must Do To Stop It, (NY: Harper Collins, 2008); Antonia Juhasz The Bush Agenda: Invading the World, 1 Economy at a Time ). And: Ida M. Tarbell, The History of the Standard Oil Company, 1904 And: IG Farben & Huge Nibley

14- Walter Cronkite receives "Global Governance Award" from WFA And: New World Money Orders: #3 jfk coup Control media Zapruder film suppressed. "The Invisible Government" 1962, by Dan Smoot: "It is, perhaps, fruitless to question the motives of people leading the campaign to push America into world government. All organizations which have been active in this movement--World Fellowship, Inc., Federal Union, Inc., Atlantic Union Committee, United World Federalists, & so on--have had a sprinkling of communist-fronters among their directors & members. But they have also had the official support of many prominent & respected Americans: Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Estes Kefauver, John Sparkman, Adlai Stevenson, Dean Acheson, John Foster Dulles, Christian Herter, cabinet officers; senators & congressmen; Supreme Court justices; prominent churchmen, businessmen, financiers, entertainers, judges, union officials; newspaper & magazine editors; famous columnists & radio-television commentators."

Lyrics to Covert Cosmic Cruisers' song: What We've Been Told & Sold! by DT, 9-11-2008:

"Every time we've gone to war
They sale us what we're fighting for!

So the U.S. Gov. can ask for more!
To keep enemies invading our shores!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

They tell us we need more taxes for defense!
Our military needs more weapons to dispense!

But how about using some common sense?!
How much taxes? What's the expense?

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

Our "Military Industrial Complex" needs to feed!
Weapons contracts filled to fill their "need"!

World corporations fulfilling all their greed!
Harvesting the provocateurs' war seeds!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

So why are we going to war?
Is it so world corporations can have some more?

Is it to frighten nations with our jets' roar?
"Shock & awe" them with our high tech weapons deplore?
If they don't fall in line with the New World Order!

"Shock & Awe" em some more!
U.N. forces crashing through your door!
One World Government invading every shore!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

High Tech. weapons out in space!
Looking down at just about every face!

Mapping out just about every place!
Making you disappear without a trace!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

Laser beams from satellites taking you out!
If you should ever protest them, scream & shout!

Is that what these wars are all about?
Will the people rise up & win this bout?

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

What's happening to the constitution?
Its' being replaced with a world institution!

What's happening to their so-called solutions?
Making their plots have their brands of resolutions!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

Manufacturing one crisis after another!
Instigating wars against each other!

Getting brothers to fight brothers!
Hear the cries of their mounring mothers!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

It was so in the Civil War!
Keep that in mind, as you do your war tour!

Is it so weapons contractors can have some more?
Carrying bags of cash through banks' doors!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

We had a war on drugs!
It created more thugs!

We had a war against slavery!
All in the name of liberty!

We had a war on poverty!
World "Banksters" now own your property!

Chorus: What we've been told!
Is it what we've been sold?

See also: Why We Fight, Directed by Eugene Jarecki And:
Arms Deal "Bribery Exposed" 1OF5 British Aerospace (BAE Systems) "Weapons & Defense contractor" [HD] #2 #3 #4 #5

15-* Kincaid, Global Taxe$ for World Government, p. 20-31, "Global IRS," on p. 21.

16- Cliff Kincaid, Global Taxe$ for World Government, (Louisiana: Huntington House, 1997). Global Conquests: Globalists Quest for World Government - World Orders

17- Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., The Age of Roosevelt, The Crisis Of The Old Order, 1919-1933, (Cambridge, Massachusetts: The Riverside Press, Houghton Mifflin Company Boston, 1964); Video series: The Occult History of The Third Reich, volumes 1--4, by Video Treasures, 1991).

J. Reuben Clark Jr., Diplomat & Statesman, Ray C. Hillan, Editor, Charles D. Tate, Jr., Associate Editor; Laura Wadley, Assistant Editor, (Provo, Utah: Brigham Young University Press, 1973), see p. 43-116, J. Reuben Clark Jr.: Law & International Order, section commentary by Edwin Brown Firmage & Christopher L. Blakesley. And p. 117-142, J. Reuben Clark, Jr., on American Sovereignty & International Organization, commentary by James B. Allen.

18- Col. Howard A. Buechner and Capt. Wilhelm Bernhart, Adolf Hitler and the Secrets of the Holy Lance, 1988, (Metairie, Louisiana, U.S.A.: Thunderbird Press, 2nd edition 1989), pp. 52-54, 60-61, 66, 69-133. And: Evidence that the Constitution is Hanging By A Thread #10 ); Hitler's "New Order," mentioned in numerous old & new historical documentaries: The Occult History of the 3rd Reich, Video Series: Hitler: The Whole Story; The World At War series; Mein Kampf, & the Biography series on A&E. Sample & examples of these are on You Tube: Evidence that the Constitution is Hanging By A Thread #10.

19- W. Cleon Skousen - The History of Secret Combinations #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 The “military industrial complex,” warned by Pres. Eisenhower, January 17, 1961, continues to threaten “the balance of powers,“ & our freedoms! Professor, Anthony Sutton, talks about "managed conflicts," set up by globalist. Alex Jones, Terror Storm (Full Lenth HD on You Tube, & especially End Game (HQ full length version on You Tube), points out how the world banksters funded both sides of wars & profited greatly from so doing. See: Europe wants New Global Financial Order, Oct. 22, 2008: "In July 1944, 730 delegates from all 44 Allied nations gather at Mount Washington Hotel, in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, to regulate the international monetary & financial order after the conclusion of WWII."

See also historical video documentary: The Great War, (Produced by Carl Byker, Akcet Production, aired on KBYU, TV channel 11, July 1998, telling how Lenin also talked about "the New World Order," like many other world leaders have, on down to Pres. Obama! Connecting the dots #2 - "Interdependence," Obama's New World Order Speech to UN 9-23-09 (Includes sound bite from, Craig Ulet), who warns about those who sought after "Interdependence," as being a way to destroy the constitution for a global system. The Soviet Story

Some of the symbols & ceremonies & ideologies are derived from the militant orders of early to later Christian Knight Orders & Christain Kings' right to rule, "rulers' law" rather than the peoples' right to rule. Global Conquests: Globalists Quest For World Government - World Orders).

Early Christian temple type ceremonies passed into later political blended with church ceremonies of coronations of Christian kings. Then, in later Knight Orders, then in Masonic Orders, & were eventually infiltrated by Atheistic & luciferian globalist conspirators who started the Illuminati Order. (DT, Winter 1997, paper for a Pol. Science, Special Studies class, Salt Lake Community College, entitled: "Endangered Species: Humanity," sources & research for historical documentary video made, entitled: Endangered Species: Humanity. See also: John Robison, A. M., Proofs of a Conspiracy, 1798, (Western Islands, Boston, Los Angeles: The Americanist Classics, 1967; originally published in 1798 as: Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All The Religions and Governments of Europe, Carried on In The Secret Meetings of Free Masons, Illuminati, and Reading Societies. Collected From Good Authorities, by John Robison, A.M. Professor of Natural Philosophy, and Secretary to the Royal Society of Edinburg. 4th edition,(New-York: Printed and sold by George Forman, No. 64, Water-Street, between Coenties and the Old-Slip. 1798.) pp. 1-205. Robert Fossier (Editor), The Middle Ages, (The Cambridge Illustrated History of The Middle Ages I, 350-950), translated by Janet Sondheimer, (Cambridge University Press 1989), p. 435, etc. See also: Col. Howard A. Buechner and Capt. Wilhelm Bernhart, Adolf Hitler and the Secrets of the Holy Lance, 1988, (Metairie, Louisiana, U.S.A.: Thunderbird Press, 2nd edition 1989), pp. 52-54, 60-61, 66, 69-133; Heinz Edgar Kiewe, 1967, The Sacred History of Knitting, (Oxford, England: Art and Needlework Indust. Lim.), chapter 13 entitled: The Sack Royal 970-1961 A.D. Anointed, King In Divine Right, In the Sack Royal, pp. 57-58, etc. ABC's of the Bible, (Reader's Digest), Ed. Kaari Ward etc., 1991, cover design picture lower corner Madonna & child and hand clasp similar to those found in the early Christian mysteries. See also: Paintings in the Louvre, by Lawrence Gowing 1987, (New York: Stewart, Tabori and Chang), pp. 35 & 167; Medieval Pageant, by Bryan Holme, (Thames and Hudson, 1987), pp. 28-29; Story of Nations, by Walker Brown, (Holt, Rinehart & Wilson, Inc., 1943), etc., p. 176; A History of the Middle Ages, 284-1500, by Sidney Painter, 1953, p. 430. Christopher Hill, 1961, The Century of Revolution 1603-1714, (New York: The Norton Library, W.W. Norton & Co., Inc.); See also: Robison, Proofs of a Conspiracy, pp. 17-56. James Harvey Robinson, PH.D., CR 1902, 1903, 1916, 1918, 1919, Medieval And Modern Times, (Boston, New York, etc., The Athenaeum Press, Ginn and Co., Proprietors, Boston, U.S.A.) pp. 75-76, see also fig. 23. CHARLEMAGNE. Gertrude Hartman's The World We Live In and How It Came To Be, (A Pictured Outline of Man's Progress from the Earliest Days to the Present), (CR 1931 Hartman; New York: The Macmillan Co., 1961): Chapter IX, In Feudal Days; pages 127-142.

For temple type evidences passed down through the centuries, see: Dr. Huge Nibley, The Collected Works of Huge Nibley, Provo & Salt Lake City, Utah: Foundation for Ancient Research & Mormon Studies = F.A.R.M.S., & Deseret Book Co.; Ignazio Mancini, O.F.M.,(Historical Survey), Archaeological Discoveries, Relative to the Judaeo-Christians, Jerusalem: Studium Biblicum Franciscanum, Collection minor #10, Franciscan Printing Press, 1970; Jeanne Villette, La Resurrection Du Christ, Dans L'Art Chretien Du IIe Au VIIe Siecle, (Paris, France: Henri Laurens, Editeur, 1957); Jeffrey Burton Russell, Satan, The Early Christian Tradition, Ithaca, London: Cornell Un. Press, 1981; Lucifer, The Devil In the Middle Age, Ithaca, London: Cornell Un. Press, 1984; The Prince of Darkness, Radical Evil & the Power of Good in History,(Ithaca, NY: Cornell Un. Press, 1988; John P. Lundy, Monumental Christianity, Or the Art and Symbolism of the Primitive Church, NY: J. W. Bouton, 1875 & 82; Walter Lowrie, Art In The Early Church, Washington Square, NY, NY: Pantheon Books, 1947; W.H.C. Frend, Martyrdom & Persecution In The Early Church,(Garden City, NY: Anchor Books Doubleday & Co. 1967; The Early Church, Philadelphia & NY: J. B. Lippincott Co. 1966; Hallenfahrt Christis, in Richard Paul W.; Himmel Hölle Fegefeuer, Das Jenseits im Mittelalter, 1994, Schweizerisches Landesmuseum, Zurich, Wilhelm Fink Verlag, Munchen; Les Ivoires Gothiques, Francais, Par Raymond Koechlin, Planches, Reimpression, Paris, France: F. DE Nobele, 1968.

You Tube series: New World Order, Early Christian Orders, Masons & Mormons shows how, LDS prophets & apostles, have testified about secret combinations which would arise in the last days to overthrow the freedom of all nations & lands. Also showing that anti-LDS critics are misinterpreting LDS symbols, temple rituals & earlier LDS leaders' freemasonry connections to falsely vilify LDS as being part of a world wide masonic conspiracy; when most LDS testify completely the opposite, are patriots, & have warned about such things from 1830 on, with the publication of the Book of Mormon. This series also shows that masonry is derived from earlier Christian mysteries, & that LDS testify that the temple endowment was restored, as evidence of traces of it being found all over in historic Christian art, writings & later customs, such as weddings, etc.

New World Order, Earl Christian Orders, Masons & Mormons #1 See also the art works on RESTORED APOLOGETICS & RESTORED APOLOGETICS {LDS/MORMON STUDIES, EVIDENCES & POLEMICS, 2010} ).

20- Douglas MacArthur, Reminiscences, (New York: McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1964; Ezra Taft Benson, Vietnam - Victory Or Surrender, (Brigham Young University/Electronic Media Department), tape K1389, BYU Devotional address). Talk on You Tube: Ezra Taft Benson, Stand Up For Freedom, 1965.

21- Hitler's Secret Book And: Anthony J. Hilder, host of Radio Free World, (Nevada), 1990s, interviewed Terry Cook about 666 The Mark of the Beast. Anthony mentions Hitler's 2nd book, "entitled, A New World Order." See also the series & documentary: The Occult History of the 3rd Reich ) And: Alex Jones, End Game HQ full length version which quotes: "National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a New World Order." Adolf Hilter. Also: To the United States Senate, Feb. 7, 1950, James Paul Warburg: "We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent."

Notes JFK section:

22- JFK talking to Canadian Parliament & in Ottowa, May 18, 1961, The TTALK daily quote on Global Trade & Investment, Global Business Dialogue, Washington DC. 12-17-2009; You Tube: John F. Kennedy In Ottawa, May 18 1961 (Part 2) See also: Darryl Wolk Newmarket, ON Canada, Monday 24, 2008, John F. Kennedy in Ottawa, May 18 1961). JFK drafts U.S. Department of State Publication 7277, Disarmament Series 5, Sept. 1961, calls for building up UN's arm forces, while nation states, U.S included, are to be systematically disarmed, so that no nation state could challenge "the progressively strengthened United Nations Police Force." ( Freedom From War, The United States Program For General & Complete Disarmament In A Peaceful World, Department of State, Pub. 7277, Disarmament Series 5, Sept. 1961.

23- June 4, 1963, JFK signs Executive Order 11110 to strip Federal Reserve Banksters of their power to loan $ to gov at interest. He give U.S. Treasury power to issue silver certificates, $4.3 billion worth. The FED was a major step taken in 1913, by Globalists, towards world government. Thus, this & other reasons could be why a coup took JFK out. For he was on his way to putting the FED Bank of New York out of business. See: President John F. Kennedy, The Federal Reserve & Executive Order 11110, by Cedric X, From The Final Call, vol. 15, #6, 1-17-1996 Also: Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, Executive Order 11110

24- Where as the Military Industrial Complex wanted to increase involvement. Lyndon B. Johnson, changed this: (Nat'l Security Action Memo 273. Johnson's subtle changes). See also: Pentagon Papers or United States-- Vietnam Relations, 1945-1967: A Study Prepared by the Deparment of Defense And: New World Money Order$ 15: LBJ Coup Against JFK; Military Industrial Complex Profits off Vietnam War And: New World Money Order$ 16: Motives for the Coup that Kill Pres. John F. Kennedy And: New World Money Order$ 17: More on LBJ's Alleged Part in the Coup to Assassinate John F. Kennedy

25- Mortal Enemies? Did President Kennedy Plan on Splintering the CIA? by Craig Frizzell & Magen Knuth.

26- Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, (Rossmoor, California: Concord Press, 1971 & 1972), p. 74, see note 18 on p. 215; Ralph Epperson, The Unseen Hand, p. 196; Chuck Smith, (Christian minister), talk entitled: What in the World is Happening?, (Salt Lake City, Utah: FireFighters for Christ, tape series). Dan Smoot, The Invisible Government, (Dallas, Texas: The Dan Smoot Report, Inc., 1962).

27- Ironically, Political Friendster, Allen Dulles, Former CIA, is later put on Warren Commission, by Lyndon Johnson 11-29-1963.

28- The Ed Schultz Show, posts by Alan Stang, Proof of Conspiracy We Have A Confession, Oct. 2007 And: Political Friendster, John McCloy And: New World Money Order$ 5: JFK Coup; John McCloy - World Banksters; & More On Witnesses' Statements! Michael Canfield & Alan J. Weberman, Coup D'Etat in America: The CIA & the Assassination of John F. Kennedy, (Paperback, May 1992); rare radio show, KFI out of Los Angeles, California, had them as guests: You Tube: New World Money Order$ 20: Credits, Sources, Bibliography, with background music & rare shows And: Isaacson, Walter & Thomas, Evan (1986). The Wise Men: Six Friends and the World They Made: Acheson, Bohlen, Harriman, Kennan, Lovett, and McCloy. Simon & Schuster, New York. The Chairman: John J. McCloy - The Making of the American Establishment, Kai Bird, New York: Simon & Schuster, 1992; The Chase: The Chase Manhattan Bank, N.A., 1945-85, John Donald Wilson, Boston: Harvard Business School Press, 1986; Memoirs, David Rockefeller, New York: Random House, 2002.

29- Pres Richard Nixon on NWO 2-25-1972 at Banquet for Premier Chou En-lai in Great Hall of the People in Beijing, China. And: New World Money Order$ 17: More on LBJ's Alleged Part in the Coup to Assassinate John F. Kennedy. May 21, 1971, James Reston (CFR), boldly declared in the New York Times, that President “Nixon would like to preside over the creation of a new world order...” This same Richard Nixon is said to often use this phrase the “new world order” when speaking of the superstate. Gary Allen, None Dare Call It Conspiracy, p. 121.

30- You Tube: New World Money Order$ 2:6, Communists' Population Reduction "Final Solution," Millions Have Died!

31- You Tube: New World Money Order$ 16: Motives for the Coup that Kill Pres. John F. Kennedy And: Dan Smoot, The Invisible Government, (Dallas, Texas: The Dan Smoot Report, Inc., 1962. Topix, thread: Why Aren't All Nations Free? Post 27, Justin Martyr Jr commentary of Smoot's book You Tube: New World Money Orders, Coup to Kill & Cover Up JFK Murder And: Jim Marrs, Cross Fire, The Plot that Killed Kennedy; Mark Lane, Rush to Judgment, a critique of the Warren Commission's inquiry into the murders of President John F. Kennedy, Officer J. D. Tippit & Lee Harvey Oswald, (NY: Holt, Rinehart & Winston, 1966). New World Money Order$ 18: Sum of Evidences & Motives of Coup that Murdered Pres. John F. Kennedy

32- "The Live Earth, Global Warming Survival Handbook," by David De Rothchild, 2007; See also: Iron Mountain Blueprint to Tyranny Full RARE Video And: Wikipedia: The Report from Iron Mountain And: Report From Iron Mountain On The Possibility & Desirability of Peace, Leonard C. Lewin, Intro, Dial Press, NY 1967. And: Is Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty? And: You Tube playlist: Climategate Gadianton Robbers Global Warming Tax Gains ). And: Connecting the dots #2 - "Interdependence," Obama's New World Order Speech to UN 9-23-09 And: Cliff Kincaid, Global Tax$
for World Government, (Louisiana: Huntington House Publishers, 1997), c. 5: Back to Nature, p. 103-125. You Tube: Climategate Gadianton Robbers Global Warming Tax Gains You Tube: Dr Deagle Show 111609 1/4-DR MIKE COFFMAN- BANKSTER BAILOUTS & WORLD CARBON TAX SCAM

33- Jimmy Carter, in an address to Chicago CFR members, May 1976, (Unseen Hand p. 238). Lindsey Williams: The Energy *Non*-Crisis-Alaska's 'Classified' Oil Reserve Largest on Earth? @jeff's freedom pages. You Tube: Lindsey Williams - The Energy Non-Crisis - Part 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8)

A Lindsey Williams: Diabolical Insane Plot to Bankrupt the USA & World; Jonathan May International Financial Consultant, recordings, Dec. 1986.

"Syndrome of Control - Testimony of Jonathan May presented by Lindsey Williams. Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6 A Heinous Testimony of Diabolic and Insane Plans to Own the USA and the World. The following List of Foreigners & Money Lenders are the Real Owners of the Federal Reserve. 1. Rothschilds of London and Berlin. 2. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy. 3. Kuhn, Loeb and Co. of Germany and New York. 4. Lazares Brothers of Paris. 5. Warburg and Co. of Hamburg, Germany. 6. Lehman Brothers of New York. 7. Goldman, Sachs..."

34- You Tube: WHO'S POLICING THE POLICE? (Part 1) 2 3 5 Blog: Who's Policing The Police & World Police? Those accused or alleged have their properties taken, for even their properties are "guilty until they can proven innocent!" Thus, the accused have to prove that they, themselves, & "their properties" are not "criminals." That their cash or properties were not acquired through illegal means! Such laws, asset forfeiture seizers, & corrupt abuse of them, could make ways for them to abolish private property, if the powers that be were to plant drugs on your property, or manufacture evidences, or built a false case against you!

35- Frederic L. Bender, Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto, (NY: W. W. Norton & Co., 1988, p. 4 & 74, #4.

36- Unknown Author, Evidence of A World Wide Conspiracy, p. 9, George Bush, Sept. 1990, United Nations.

37- New World Order speech George H W Bush 9/11/1991 And: Because of This Secret Combination #1 {Evidences of Constitution Hanging By A Thread} Ether 8:21-25

38- You Tube: Who's Policing The Police? (Part 3) Part 4 And: Lt. Col. Bo Gritz claims CIA drug dealing, July 1988 And: 24of COL Bo Gritz CIA DRUG DEALING in AMERICA,Most Decorated Soldier

39- David B. Funderburk, Former Ambassador to Romania, Betrayal of America, Bush's Appeasement of Communist Dictators Betrays American Principles, (U.S.A: The Larry McDonald Foundation, 1991.

40- You Tube: Global Conquests: Globalists Quest For World Government - World Orders

41- Patriot Act And The Current Threat To Our Civil Liberties Part 1 of 2 Part 2 And: Obama set to extend the Patriot Act And: 1. Patriot Act - The War on Civil Liberties And: Unconstitutional: The War On Our Civil Liberties, Directed by Nonny de la Pena. Ron Paul asks Congress What if the people learn the truth? 2009

42- You Tube: CFR JP MORGAN CHASE BAILOUT THE NWO NOT NEW 1917 new world order Lehman Brothers Goldman Sachs And: THE NWO IS NOT NEW PART DEUX economic bailout debate CFR NAU new world order Economy debate invasion And: ENDGAME- ALEX JONES - Blueprint for Global Enslavement

43- Robert W. Lee, The United Nations Conspiracy, (Boston; Los Angeles: Western Islands Publishers, 1981; Cliff Kincaid, Global Bondage, The U.N. Plan to Rule the World. And: Thomas P. Kilgannon, Diplomatic Divorce, Why America Should End Its Love Affair With The United Nations, (GA: Stroud & Hall Publishers, 2006); Cliff Kincaid, Global Taxe$ for World Government, (Louisiana: Huntington House, 1997).

44- Communist leader, Nikita Khruschev is quoted as saying that communists would feed America with small doses of socialism, until we finally awake to find we already have communism. That communists would also "so weaken your economy, until you fall like over ripe fruit, into our hands." As told to Ezra Taft Benson, Secretary of Agriculture, under Pres. Dwight Eisenhower, September 1959. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMzLgSuBr54&feature=related Khruschev was quoted by Benson in a talk given at BYU in 1966 entitled "Our Immediate Responsibility." Benson believed that a communist/socialist conspiracy was working within our country to subtly drive us, like cattle, into communism. On March 18, 1954, LDS Prophet, David O. McKay warned that the Communists’“...avowed purpose is to destroy belief in God and free enterprise.... The fostering of full economic freedom lies at the base of our liberties. Only in perpetuating economic freedom can our social, political, & religious liberties be preserved." Excerpt from Inaugural address for Dr. Henry A. Dixon President of USU, delivered by President McKay at the USU fieldhouse, Logan, Utah, Monday, March 18, 1954.

45- You Tube: Because of This Secret Combination #2 Congress Passing Bills & Acts they Don't Read! And: Stop Unconstitutional DC Voting Representation - The Liberal Power Grab.

46- Aaron Russo: America - Freedom To Fascism (High Quality)

47- See: Unconstitutional - The War on Our Civil Liberties

48- Aaron Dykes, June 26, 2009, House Passes the 1,200-page Climate Mill that Congress was Not Allowed to Read. Climate Bill that Congress was "not" Allowed to Read. Infowars 6-26-2009.

49- Rep. Burton Blasts The Pelosi Health Car Bill On the House Floor. And: You Tube: Glenn Beck 20100107 Part 1/4 2 3 4 Here's another bill that some warn gives more powers & control to the globalists, & takes away more of our freedoms, & bill of rights & erodes the constitution! You Tube, USA a Constitutional Republic: Anyusmoon's channel: The Truth About Health Care Bill- Unconstitutional, Federal power grab, NO PRIVACY And: Michael Connelly, Retired Attorney, Constitutional Law Instructor, Carroll, Texas, The Truth About the Health Care Bills, Posted 8-12-2009 And: House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi is alleged that she may try to pass by the Senates' votes, by not even having them vote on the Health Care bill. CNSNews.com Pelosi Will Read Full Final Text of Health Care Bill Before House Vote and Give Public 'Ample' Time to Do Same, Says Spokesman, Monday, July 13, 2009. By Nicholas Ballasy, Video Reporter & Marie Magleby & Monica Gabriel.

50- You Tube: Because of This Secret Combination #2 Congress Passing Bills & Acts they Don't Read!) And: Unconstitutional - The War on Our Civil Liberties. June 12 1998, Friday, “K-talk,” KTKK, 630 AM Radio, Salt Lake City, Utah. Jack Stockwell show, a guest told of a faction in London doing the same types of things as in the U.S.A.

51- Connecting the dots #2 - "Interdependence," Obama's New World Order Speech to UN 9-23-09; Vincent P Rock, The Strategy of Interdependence, a program for the control of conflict between the United States & the Soviet Union (New York: Scribner, 1964).

52- You Tube: Because of This Secret Combination #2 Congress Passing Bills & Acts they Don't Read!

53- Carlo James, M.A. The New World Order, An Economic Global Regime And: You Tube: cnn - obama in prague "a stronger, global regime" - korea threat And: Kenneth P. Thomas, Un. of Missouri- St. Louis, The Politics of an Emergent Global Regime for Controling Tax Competition And: Obama's talk, Washington D.C., July 27, 2009, U.S./China Strategic & Economic Dialogue. "In the 21st century, a strong and global regime is the only basis for security from the world's deadliest weapons." Obama also used the usual globalist lingo, & crisis resolutions lingo.

54- Hear it on You Tube: Global Conquests, #4: UN, CFR, EU, NAU = World State Disorder!

55- Alex Jones' Council Speech On the Patriot Act

56- Unconstitutional - The War on Our Civil Liberties

57- Example of what happened under "Collectivization" Government or State control over farming: During Communism in Russia, under Joseph Stalin, 1930s, under “Collectivization,” Lenin’s idea was put into practice by Stalin, who took over farm lands, the production of grains, foods, & forced the peasants to bow down to the all powerful State. 1930’s “the Red Army collected all the produce from every field.” Some peasant farmer attempted to hide their produce, but the Red Army would search every where, finding the produce thus taken by them. The Communist officials also took the farmer’s tools of productions. This resulted in setting the stages for a cannibalistic society to raise its’ ugly head. For the peasants thus didn’t have the means to produce food; didn’t have the tools, & this resulted in the complete opposite of what film propaganda made it look like; that is, that peasants were happy to take part in the State Sponsored Collectivization enforced by Stalin.
Famine followed, with 6 million in the Ukraine, dying of starvation, for example, during the next few years, with millions in other places too. “Peasants maddened by hunger, began to eat corpses. Then an even worse horror emerged. Some peasants had kidnapped children & eaten them.” Stalin‘s murderous version of communism, had turned human beings into flesh eating animals. (Source: You Tube: Harun Yahya, The Bloody History of Communism part 5: The Violence of Collectivization). See also: The Soviet Story

58- Videos: Global Warming Scam exposed!

59- Hannity's America: More Al Gore Hypocrisy And: Sheryl Crow on using 1 square of toilet paper ).

60- (Why Cattle-Driven Global Warming Is A Load of Bull, by Patrick Lockerby, 3-22-2010 And: Cow tax proposal on 'methane emissions' would threaten agriculture & push carbon tax, by Ken Hamilton, Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, Thursday, Nov. 20, 2008 And: GreenBiz.com: U.S. Climate Legislation Won't Regulate Cow Burps, by Jonathan Bardeline, June 22, 2009.

61- Cliff Kincaid, Global Taxes for World Government, p. 103-125; Gary Allen's The Rockefeller File, chapter 10: The People Planners, "The center was originally designed to perform more than 10,000 abortions a year for an average fee of $80, with funds provided in many cases by Medicaid." Ellen Goodman, The Abortion War's Loaded Lingo, Tuesday, June 5, 1990). And: WHO'S POLICING THE POLICE? (Part 1)

62- WHO'S POLICING THE POLICE? (Part 2) (Part 3) (Part 4) Blog: Who's Policing the Police & World Police? Another version: Policing Police?

The New World Order promoters like the Rockefellers, "have even financed the establishment of an abortion mill. In the summer of 1971, Planned Parenthood-New York City opened its first large scale abortion center -a prototype for the development of additional centers throughout the city, state, and nation. The center was originally designed to perform more than 10,000 abortions a year for an average fee of $80, with funds provided in many cases by Medicaid." "Justified" murders of millions, in the name of "populations control," and "planning." (Drug Wars, http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/ see also a book by that title. Randy Alcorn, Why Pro-Life?, Caring for the Unborn and Their Mothers, (Sisters, Oregon: Multnomah Publishers, Inc., 2004; Gary Allen, The Rockefeller File, chaper 10: The People Planners, http://www.whale.to/b/allen_b.html

http://www.npr.org/news/specials/drugwars/totncoverage.html )

Medical Un. of S. Carolinia, says that if a pregnant woman's urine test indicates the use of cocaine, she can be "arrested for distributing drugs to a minor"! In Illinois if a pregnant woman takes illegal drugs, she can be prosecuted for "delivering a controlled substance to a minor." How can this be, if, as the pro-choice propaganda claims, the un-born is "not a person" with "rights!" This type of ruling, however, clearly suggests that the un-born is human, with rights to protect! The irony is, however, that the same women, jailed for endangering her child, though still yet un-born, can turn around and demand & is even free to abort that very same child at tax payers expense! But then, at the same time, in America, it's illegal to harm your preborn child, but it's perfectly legal to kill them! WOW! How did we come to this! (Alcorn, Why Pro-Life?, pp, 39-41).

Moreover, in Oregon, every alcohol serving establishment is required to post signs that warn pregnant women about the harmful effects that alcohol can have on their unborn. (Alcorn, pp. 39-41). Can pregnant women also be charged with some kind of illegal distribution charge, when smoking tobaco too! Or is that too, inconsistantly protected in the name of the "un-born isn't human yet" propaganda!

So, while many innocent Americans are being prosecuted for these types of things, & are having their "private property abolished," as the Communist Manifesto state is one of their goals! Despite how the Constitution & its' framers were concerned about this issue, as Madison wrote in the Federalist: "To secure the public good and private rights." (Richard Vetterli, The Constitution By A Thread, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Paramount Publishers, 1967), pp. 58-60; Jerome Horowitz, The Elders of Israel And The Constitution, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Parliament Publishers, 1970), pp. 119-120).

63- Ezra Taft Benson, Stand Up For Freedom, 1965.

More sources & books of interest, or that contain interesting sources too!

T. W. Doane, Bible Myth, And Their Parallels In Other Religions,(New York: The Truth Seeker Company, 1882 & 1910).

Walter Lowrie, Art In The Early Church,(Washington Square, New York, New York: Pantheon Books, 1947).

W. H. C. Frend, Martyrdom & Persecution In The Early Church,(Garden City, New York: Anchor Books Doubleday & Company, 1967).

The Ante-Nicene Fathers = TANF. A set of volumes on the writings of the early Christians before the Nicene Creed era of A.D. 325.(Grand Rapids, Michigan: T & T Clark, Edinburgh, W. M. B. Eerdmans Publishing, reprinted October 1989), nine volumes.

The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers,(Grand Rapids, Michigan: W. M. B. Eerdmans, reprinted April 1986), fourteen volumes.

Yves Bonnefoy, Mythologies,(A Restructured Translation of Dictionnaire des mythologies et des religions des societes traditionnelles et du monde antique). Prepared under the direction of Wendy Doniger. Translated by Gerald Honigsblum, etc.,(Chicago, U.S.A., & London, England: The University of Chicago Press, 1991).

J. P. Migne, Patrologiae Cursus Completus; Series Latina, 221 volumes; (Paris: 1844-1864).
Patrologia Cursus Completus, Series Graeca (Paris: 1857-1866, 161 volumes).

Anna D. Kartsonis, Anastasis, The Making of An Image,(Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 1986).

Chandler Rathfon Post, A History of Spanish Painting,(Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press, 1930—1958).(New York: Kraus reprint Company, 1970's).

Charles Norris Cochrane, Christianity and Classical Culture,(Clarendone Press, 1940, Paperback; Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1957).

Daniel C. Peterson, Dr. and Stephen David Ricks, Professors, Offenders For A Word {How Anti-Mormons Play Word Games to Attack the Latter-day Saints},(Salt Lake City, Utah: Aspen Books, 1992).

Geoffrey R. King, The Forty Days,(Grand Rapids, Michigan: W.M. B. Eerdmans, 1949).

Hanns Swarzenski, Monuments Of Romanesque Art, The Art of Church Treasures in North-Western Europe,(The University of Chicago Press, 1954 and 2nd, Edition, 1967).

Henry Ansgar Kelly, The Devil at baptism: Ritual, Theology, and Drama,(Ithaca and London: Cornell University Press, 1985).

Henry Chadwick, The Early Church,(New York: Dorset Press, 1967).

Henry Bettenson, The Early Christian Fathers,(Oxford, England: Oxford University Press, 1956).

Huge Nibley, Dr.Mormonism and Early Christianity,(Provo and Salt Lake City, Utah: Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies = F.A.R.M.S., and Deseret Book Company, 1987).

Ignazio Mancini, O.F.M.,(Historical Survey), Archaeological Discoveries, Relative to the Judaeo-Christians,(Jerusalem: Studium Biblicum Franciscanum, Collection minor #10, Franciscan Printing Press, 1970).

Jeffrey Burton Russell, Satan, The Early Christian Tradition,(Ithaca, London: Cornell Un. Press, 1981).

A Short History of The "Pre-existence of souls," or our Pre-mortal life as Spirits in Heaven

Preexistence: A Short History of Historic Christians' beliefs, later legends, art works & rejections of the earlier beliefs in a pre-mortal life as spirits in a family in heaven.

(DT from an earlier 1993 draft, revised 2010).

Many basic elements to the stories concerning a pre-existence are found in many ancient nations of the world, but with many conflicting interpretations & versions. Some of the basic elements to the stories have become so fragmented & legendized in the different nations' mythologies & legends that it becomes difficult to discern what fragments of the story have been preserved. The basic elements behind these stories consists of a number of basic themes, some nations include more elements to the story than others.

These basic elements are that we all existed as spirits in a family in heaven before we were born into mortal bodies. As angelic-spirits of God, we lived and grew in light, knowledge, truth, and love, etc., and were free to choose good or evil. A plan was presented in a council in heaven, in which the creation of the earth, and our mortal bodies, etc., was discussed. For further growth, and experiences, we needed to
enter into another realm of existence by going to a world to gain a mortal body. Thus, this earth was created for that very purpose. A plan was presented concerning free agency. Free agency would allow the human family on earth to maintain the right to choose good over evil. And because there was a great
possibility that the human family would choose evil rather than good from time to time, but would later want to repent or change their evil ways and turn back to God, one of the Gods would come to earth to atone for the sins of the whole world. In some cases in early Christendom, Christ,--the "first born", was chosen to become the Redeemer of the world, while others were chosen to become prophets & apostles.

One of the other angel-spirit sons of God, became a "rebel-apostate" against God, & sought to enforce his own plan of non-freedom. In his pride he sought to take over the Most High God's position and sought His throne for himself and so he caused his followers to go to war against the other angel spirits. Michael the arch-angel and his angels fought with the rebel angels, which angels became the "fallen" angels
because they were cast out of heaven fell down to earth, for they kept not their "first estate."

The Human family would come to earth to live & grow. With the memory of the life before life veiled or blocked off, we could have a fresh start and learn to develop faith, etc. One of the ways that we regain some of the basic knowledge and understanding of this life before life is through the true messengers, the prophets and apostles of God. During different dispensations of time, and in different nations of the
earth, these true messengers have revealed different bits of knowledge concerning the pre-earth life.

In having a fresh start & a new beginning in mortal life, the human family could be tested to see how we would react to what little bits of knowledge we might have been given, or would obtain in earth life. As we grow, part of the test in mortal life was to attempt to discern between truth and error. Thus, the many opposites in this life which give us the conditions upon which to make a choice from, and to see if we
would choose good over evil. If we used what little bits of knowledge that we learn for good, rather than for evil, we would be able to obtain higher gifts of knowledge, and would continue to develop and grow.

At death we would return back to our heavenly home. Our home coming would be a `return to glory.' During Christ's life time, the doctrine and basic elements to the story of a pre-earth life was known, and believed by Christ and many of his followers. Christ had even taught that He and others had pre-existed in heaven before their mortal existences. For God the Father had sent them into the world during that dispensation.

During the early centuries after Christ, many of the earliest Christians, such as some of the Apostolic Fathers, & the a number of early Christians after them. Wrote about the different basic themes in the pre-earth life story. Many early Christians believed that Christ had not only preached the gospel to the spirits in prison, (a lower realm of existence). But Christ had gone to different parts of the world too. In
so doing this, people could be saved where ever they were. Some of the early Christians had even defended these beliefs against the attacks of some of the early anti-Christians! For some of the early anti-Christians had charged that the early Christians believed that they alone would be saved while
everyone else would be roasted in the fire! And that they alone in the whole world had prophets, while the rest of the human family had been neglected by the Christians' God. And because the early Christians' doctrines were not ancient, God couldn't have saved anyone before the time of Christ. Different early
Christians responded to such charges by saying that God had not neglect the whole world. For He had sent "anointed ones" & "Christs" or anointed prophets as representatives for Christ, to other nations of the earth. Christ had even broken down the doors to the spirit prison, and the other nations of the world,
and had entered into those places or realms where ever the human family could be found. Even entering into innumerable nations and islands of the sea, which were unknown to them, but known to Christ. In each of these different nations & realms, the people of Christ could be found. Christ and his gospel had also pre-existed in the heavenly pre-existing church of the "first born." And so many souls everywhere
had been given the saving knowledge of the gospel throughout the different dispensations of time. The early anti-Christians ignored and, or, rejected these responses in order to charge that the Christians had borrowed their stories, the basic elements of the scriptures, & rituals or "mysteries" from the
pre-Christian time pagan nations. They pointed to the many different parallels between the pagan-cults & the Christians to make this claim. But the early Christians also had an answer to these charges too. For if Christ & the gospel had pre-existed in the heavens, & before any & all nations & people had been created on earth. And before the nations of the earth had followed the fallen angels into different ages of apostasy. Then it was the gospel of Christ which had been the original message from which the other pagan stories, mysteries, rituals, predictions, etc., had been derived & borrowed from, not the other way around as the critics had claimed. Another reason why there were so many parallels between the Christians & the pagans-cults, was because the fallen angels had heard the true prophets of God in the different nations of the earth, & had then went about counterfeiting the things that the true prophets had said, or predicted. Thus, in having borrowed from the divine things of God, the fallen angels and their
earthly agents made clever counterfeits, & had perverted, mocked, & corrupted the gospel. Counterfeit forms of the "gospels" was what the early Christians believed that the pagans had, and naturally then there was going to be some similarities and parallels. Thus, the early Christians answered these different charges in these ways. Bringing into such answers their own particular interpretations concerning a
pre-existence. If their defense & observations was correct, this might explain why we can find different traces of the pre-existence story all over the world.

John P. Lundy wrote that: "Infidelity has been accustomed to say, from the time of Dupuis to the present, that Christianity is only a sort of copy of ancient Paganism: that it has no new ideas, and must therefore be rejected. But where did Paganism get its sublime conceptions of God, its notions of immortality and human destiny? Whence did all ancient nations derive them, hold them, and agree so marvellously about them? This universal faith must have an adequate cause; and Christianity is but the more full, clear, true and glorious exponent of it all.... If Christ was before Abraham, as He claimed to be, then surely He must have manifested Himself to other nations beside the Jews, or other nations, including the Jews, must have
derived their religious systems and ideas from some common source."1

Many aspects and elements of the pre-existence can be seen in ancient to later Jewish, Chinese, Greek, & other nations' legends, traditions, writings, art works & scriptures, in which the council in heaven, the war in heaven, & the fallen apostate angels that sinned are all common themes. In the native americans' traditions and customs the legendized & faded memories of Christ's visit to the americas & traces of the
pre-existence stories are visible there too. Though these areas would be interesting areas to cover, here we will track the doctrine as it is found in early to later Christianity.

A SHORT CHRONOLOGY: FROM THE 1ST CENTURY TO THE 20TH. During the 1st cent. A.D.:

Many New Testament writers, Barnabas, The Odes of Solomon, & Clement of Rome tell us that Christ pre-existed.

Ignatius [30-107], mentions the war in heaven, & how Christ was begotten before time began. Satan is the apostate fallen angel. A plan of salvation was preached and prepared before the world was created.

BARNABAS [ABOUT A.D. 100-118?]: "The "Epistle of Barnabas," the work of an unknown author, was written about 118 in the Jewish-Christian community of Egypt. Barnabas wrote from the perspective of the Hellenistic, allegorical Jewish thought, that the rabbis tended to reject. The evil One was also symbolically called the Black One. Those who followed the evil one or the Black one would find themselves on the side of evil darkness, cut off from Christ.2

Mathetes to Diognetus, [A.D. 130], hints to the pilgrimage from heaven, for they were `sojourners' on earth. In The Gospel of Philip, 140 A.D., & other ancient documents, in some cases descents, ascensions, passersby, pilgrims, strangers, wanderers, & seeds, etc., all hint to the preexistence. For since these souls came from another world, they were only passersby in the present one, says the Gospel of Thomas, (Log.
42).

PAPIAS, [A.D. 70-155]: Papias conflated the ancient story of the Watchers angels with another Jewish Apocalyptic tradition that held that God appointed angels to govern the earth & its nations. Each nation had its ruling angel, but these angels had begun to abused their power & eventually fell under the sway of the evil prince of this world. Papias was influenced by Jewish traditions, as were other early Christians.3

The Shepherd of Hermas, [A.D. 160], symbolically mentions the preexisting Church, & how that Christ was with the Father in council before the creation of the world.

JUSTIN MARTYR [110-165 A.D.], wrote that the evil demons had misrepresented the early Christians' doctrines, etc., because the demons had counterfeited the divine things of God & heaven. Christ's mission was predicted by the true prophets in the different nations of the earth, & these predictions were also counterfeited by the demons, or fallen angels. Justin reflects rabbinical (Jewish) ideas in some of his comments about the fallen angels who had demons born to them, (or as other rabbinical accounts say, `giants'), from captive woman on the earth. He wrote that the demons had set up magical arts, & perverted the human family with their evil works. Christ was the first born of all creation, & preexisted.
If we repent & follow Christ, our souls would be restored to the realm from which it came from. Christ was involved in the creation of our first parents. Justin's writings show us that he was also influenced somewhat by Greek thought. Justin called the devil the apostate angel & dragon. Trypho rejected the idea that Christ had pre-existed & had talked with the prophets of pre-Christian times. In his defense & Pre-exist
dialogue with the Jew "Trypho", Justin says that Christ had preexisted, He was also a 2nd God besides the Father. Justin & Trypho argued about Christ's pre-existence, how, & why He would appeared to the prophets of old, & how Christ was "the angel of the Lord". And how that Christ could be a 2nd God
besides the Father. Trypho appears to have resisted these ideas, even though Justin promises scriptural proof & evidences which he points to during the course of their dialogue. Jewish documents make reference to the preexistence, and so they may not have had too much of a problem with the idea of a preexistence. But rather, many of the Jews had a hard time accepting Christ as being the one God, or another God, and that it was Jesus who had spoken to their prophets.

TATIAN THE ASSYRIAN, [110-172 A.D.], in writing to the Greeks, he wrote that God the Father is a spirit which did not begin to be in time. The Logos [Christ] is the first-begotten when no creature was yet in existence. Tatian suggested that the human family had not existed before birth. However, in the case with the Logos it was a different matter, for the Logos had pre-existed with the Father, & had been the Framer of angels who were also made free to make choices. He wrote how some men had supposed & regarded satan as the first born, & had declared him to be God, though he had resisted the law of God. This particular first-begotten one fell through his transgression & ignorance & became a demon. Those
who imitated him became a host of demons. The demons had lost their wings as former angels of God because they had sinned. Like nestling that flutter out of the nest they fell to the ground. It seems that Tatian believed certain aspects of the pre-existence, while not accepting other aspects.

Theophilus of Antioch, [115-168-181], wrote in response to an early anti-Christian named Autolycus. He wrote that God created all things out of nothing. Christ was a helper in the creation of all things in the beginning, He was also in a council in heaven with God, as were also the angels.

Irenaeus, [120-202], & other early Church Fathers responded to the different types of versions of the pre-existence stories, by presenting their own particular versions of the story. The different Gnostic versions, though rather strange and blended in with other versions, etc., they still retained some of the
basic elements of the different concepts of the pre-existence. Irenaeus preserved for us a fragment from Justin Martyr's writings that was lost and which mentioned satan's apostasy from God. Irenaeus wrote Against Heresies some time between 182 & 188 A.D., & even though he rejected the numerous interpretations of rival Christian sects, which according to him were in a state of apostasy, there may
have been some beliefs that were similar to his own. Thus, there may have been many areas of agreement. Irenaeus presented his own version of Christ was the first born in heaven, the war in heaven & the fall of the apostate dragon or serpent,--(symbolic of satan), & of the fall of satan's angels. He wonder about how any one could not have retained a memory of the pre-existence? Centuries before Irenaeus, the Greek
writer Plato had attempted to answer this question, for Plato wrote of those who, before entering life, had drank from a cup that causes them to forget their pre-mortal existence. Later Irenaeus asks how Plato could have remembered the cup & drink, etc., after he had been born into a body? If, that is, the drink from the cup causes them to forget? Irenaeus also suggested that the human family did not exist as spirits
before our bodies were created, but rather, our bodies & spirits were created at the same time. Thus, Irenaeus seems to have believed some aspects of the stories of the pre-existence, while rejecting other aspects, & those versions as told by some of the greeks, & other rival Christians whom he considered to be heretics. Irenaeus also noted & mentioned some of the different versions of the pre-existence stories
as found in Jewish writings, & those of the Greeks.

TERTULLIAN, [145-220], believed that our spirits had no premortal existence, but were propagated, like our mortal bodies, by our mortal parents at the same time. And yet Tertullian seems to have believed other aspects of the story of the preexistence. For he accepted the writings of Enoch as restored through Ezra to be scripture. Thus, he makes references to the apostate angels, who transgressed against God, & who became the fallen angels, or rebel angels. These demons fought against the divine things of God, & the Prophets by setting up counterfeit baptisms, sacraments, etc., in the pagan mysteries. They had also counterfeited the miracles attempting to pass themselves off as "gods", when they were not. Tertullian seems to have believed that Christ was the first-begotten Word that preexisted as a Spirit. Then Christ's spirit descended or proceeded forth from God into a certain virgin, and was made flesh in her womb. God
therefore sent down into the virgin's womb His Word, Jesus Christ as the good Brother, who should blot out the memory of the evil brother the devil. Tertullian notes also that Plato knew of the existence of angels, and how those who practice magic come forth to witness that there are 2 types of spirits.

RECOGNITIONS OF CLEMENT [1ST--4TH CENTURIES A.D.?] In: Clementine Recognitions, the world has existed through the ages so that the spirits destined to come here might fulfill their number, and here make their choice between the upper and the lower worlds.

ORIGEN [185-230-254 A.D.] OR [185-243 A.D.], defended and taught many aspects of the story about the pre-existence. The human family preexisted as spirits before we came down to earth. Christ is the first born of all creation. For although Christ had been born into a body, He did not start his existence then, for He had been with the Father in the beginning, & it was to Him that the Father said, `let us make
man in our own image.' (Genesis 1:26). There was a council in heaven, & Christ was not simply an angel, but He was the "Angel of the great counsel", & the "Angel of God" which came into the world for the salvation of the human family. There was a war in heaven which resulted in the casting out of the
apostate angels, or the devil & his angels. Celsus (an early anti-Christian writer about 170-80 A.D.), mocked the Christians of his time for their beliefs in the war in heaven, & the fall of the angels who became wicked, and were cast under the earth and punished with chains. Celsus asked why God would need to fight with one of his own creations? Origen noted how Celsus had used, in some cases, the opinions of an early Christian named Marcion. And the opinions of those of the Christians against Marcion, not knowing that they were against Marcion. Origen & others had considered Marcion to be a heretic. Thus, Origen noticed how Celsus had used the opinions of Marcion in order to say that the same Christians speak of 2 divine sons, locked in combat with one another. They fight like quails, the 2 sons, since their fathers are in their dotage & are to tired to fight. Celsus may have saw in these stories parallels to the greeks's & pagan versions, & thus he may have charged that the Christians had borrowed
from such stories to make up their own versions of the story about the war in heaven between two divine sons. Origen may have accepted the idea that 2 divine sons had fought with each other in a war in heaven. But not the way in which Celsus had presented Marcion's version of the story.

Celsus, upon rejecting the preexistence & the descent from heaven of Christ's spirit into the body of His birth to Mary, also mockingly asked the Christians: You Christians mean to tell us that this Jesus created the world & the universe!, & then came to earth to work with wood, as the wood-working man's son!?
Why would the God of heaven pick such a life? Why would he lower himself to such a condition & in such a low-ranked manner? Why weren't a number of "Christs" sent down from heaven into every part of the earth instead of just that one spirit, (or Christ) who came down to just one corner of the earth amongst the Jews? Some early Christians answered this by saying that Christ had become a man so that we can
learn from a man how to become gods. In response to Celsus, Origen wrote that there really was no need, at the time of Christ's birth, for a number Christs to have also been born into every corner of the world.

For if Celsus had wanted to see "Christs" he should have noted that God had sent out representatives whom are termed "christs," by the scriptures, (1 Chron.16:22; Psa.105:15), or anointed prophets into all lands! Origen's response includes the idea that Christ had eventually entered into different parts of the earth, also. Origen also believed that one of the reason why some people had come down from the pre-mortal existence & were born into conditions & circumstances which were not as good as others was because they had not been as faithful as others in the preexistence. In his De Principiis, Origen explores the question of whether or not their souls came into existence at the same time with their bodies, or seem to be anterior to them. One of Origen's views that may have got him in trouble with his fellow Christians, & later ones, was how he believed that Christ's atonement had paid for the sins of the fallen angels, & if satan & his demons were willing to repent, they would return someday to their heavenly home.

The doctrine of pre-existent is also found in Jewish-Rabbinical literature in the middle of the 3rd cent. A.D., & its first representatives in Palestine are said to have been R. Semu'el bar Nahman (about A.D.260), R. 'Assi (about A.D. 300), R. Leui (about A.D. 300), & R. Yishaq (about A.D. 300).

LACTANTIUS [260-330], makes references to the deceptions of the devil,--the pretended deity. The origins of evil have it's beginnings in satan's apostate & rebellious attitude. The first angel created, according to Lactantius, was precisely that one who was to become the chief of the bad angels, the devil.
Lucifer caused a war in heaven because he was jealous of his spirit brother Jesus Christ.

In the early years of the 4th century A.D., Methodius, bishop of Patara in Lycia, rejected among other things, Origen's teaching on the preexistence. The early Church Historian, Eusebius of Caesarea [or Eusebius friend of the martyr Pamphili], wrote [about 323-325], that Christ was the Light which was before the world, the intellectual & essential Wisdom which existed before the ages, the living Word
which was in the beginning with the Father & which was God. Christ was also the first & only begotten of God which was before every creature & creation visible & invisible. And the commander-in-chief of the rational & immortal host of heaven, the messenger of the great heavenly council, the executor of the Father's unspoken will, the creator with the Father of all things, the 2nd cause of the universe after the Father, & so on. Christ was the first-born Word who had spoken to the pre-Christian time prophets of old. Though Eusebius took part in the Nicene Creed controversy of 325, he still seems to have believed in the preexistence of Christ, & the council in heaven.
Concerning Origen, & Origenism, some Christians accepted many of his views, while others, such as Athanasius, who was consecrated bishop of Alexandria in 328, the Cappadocian fathers, Basil & the 2 Gregories, while admitting that his works weren't wholly free from error, they regarded him as orthodox
in the main & defended him.

Theodore of Mopsuestia, was born in Antioch, & later became the bishop of Mopsuestia in Cilicia, & died in 328. After which his doctrines were condemned. He believed that Christ's spirit was not born to Mary, but his body had been. He also believed that our earthly mothers were not the mothers of our preexisting spirits.

In 331 Gregory of Nyssa was born, in 376 he seems to have believed that the spirit was good & noble before coming to earth, but in the course of earth life, the soul had become filthy because of sins. However, through Christ & their rituals or ordinances (also called "mysteries"), the soul could be cleansed & restored unto goodness & greatness like unto that which the soul had known in the pre-existence. Later, Gregory, in 380, fought against Origen's version of the doctrine of the preexistence. Perhaps because Origen had held the view that souls come to earth into different levels of good or bad
conditions, based on the soul's faithfulness or unfaithfulness in the pre-existence. Gregory had also fallen under the influences of Methodius' objections to Origen's views. And such views may have helped caused him to abandoned the doctrine, to which he also later began to fight against it. Or at least Origen's
interpretations of it. Gregory noted that the Christians of his time were confused about the pre-existence. Some say we lived in families there, & in tribes just as we do here, & that we lost our wings when we came down here & will get them back again upon earth. At this time the Christians mixed up tenable & untenable hings; all sorts of strange ideas get in the picture. Despite this the belief was still there in some areas, while it began to be questioned & even rejected in other areas of Christendom.

St. Jerome, [born about 345, died about 420], may have accepted certain aspects of some of the stories concerning the pre-existence. Jerome is said to have interpreted the "star of your god" as Lucifer (the Morning Star) in Amos 5:26. Jerome, had written previously with high regards & in praise of Origen, & that got him in trouble with those who were against Origenism. And so he determined that for the future he would say or do nothing to compromise himself. And yet Jerome also wrote of the treasury in heaven of preexisting souls, one of the versions that reflects the idea of the pre-existence. According to the Discourse on Abbaton by Timothy, Archbishop of Alexandria, in 380, the council in heaven & the plan of God was presented to the host of heaven. Towards the end of the 4th century A.D., Epiphanius, bishop of Salamis in Cyprus, renewed the attack against many of Origen's views.(Anchoratus & Adv. Haereses), He includes Origen among the heretics on the grounds previously set forth by Methodius, etc.
Other Christians were divided because of other situations which arose as a results of Origenism. And yet there were some Christians who defended the doctrine of the preexistence, or at least their own particular versions of it. Pilastrius, places it among the heresies.

St. Augustine of Hippo. [354-430 A.D.], consecrated bishop of Hippo in 395.4 Augustine opposed the doctrine of a fall in a pre-existent state, as contradicting the Scripture statement that "God saw everything that he had made, and behold it was
good." He also remarks that if earthly bodies were given to fallen spirits on account of the sins they had committed, the bodies should be proportioned to the degree of the sins; & that the devils, therefore, should have worse bodies than men,--which Augustine thinks is not the case. St. Augustine was responding to the belief that many pre-existing spirits had sinned before they had come to earth life. And in having sinned, the type of body that they would be born into would reflect & hint towards the degree of seriousness of their sins. This he seems to have rejected.

Rufinus, upon returning to Italy in 397, was asked by his friend Macarius to translate Origen's First Principles into latin from greek. Rufinus hesitated, knowing full well the trouble he would get in if he seemed to be friendly towards Origenism. Finally, however, he consented to do so. Other Christians were
divided because of other situations which arose as a results of Origenism.

DURING THE 5TH CENTURY A.D., there were some Christians who rejected many of Origen's beliefs, while others still respected & held on to them. Theodore of Mopsuestia, during the beginning of the century, was one who opposed Origenism. The controversy spread from Egypt & was renewed in Constantinople. When Nitrian monks were banished from Egypt on account of their attachment to
Origen, they took refuge at Constantinople, & were treated with clemency by bishop John Chrysostom. When Theophilus, the patriarch of Alexandria, heard of this he sought to combat the situation. A council was held at Chalcedon, in 403, with Theophilus at it's head. He declared Chrysostom unworthy of his high rank in the church, because he came to the rescue of the Nitrian monks, & had stood disposed towards Origen & his followers. Cyril of Alexandria, [412], & Nemesius of Emesa, defended the doctrine of the simple pre-existence of the soul, but not of its fall in a pre-existent state.

DURING THE 6TH CENTURY A.D., a number of Coptic manuscripts were written in the dialect of upper Egypt. In them we see hints to different aspects of the pre-existence, such as the council & war in heaven, plus Michael's fight with the dragon,--satan. And how satan & his followers were cast out of heaven for refusing to worship Adam whom they considered was an inferior being. There was a festival
which kept alive these stories. Theodore, the Archbishop of Antioch, symbolically called satan the dragon that dwells in the abyss!

Severus, Archbishop of Antioch, 512-19, said that he would like to say a few words of adoration to the Christ, whom he said existed before all worlds. Theodosius, Archbishop of Alexandria, 536, said that Adam talks to one of his sons about how that after he (Adam), was created. God commanded all the hosts of heaven to come & worship God's likeness and image in the creation of Adam. Michael & his host did
so, while Satanael,--the Devil, an archangel, & his followers refused to. Because of this Michael took away their angelic powers, glory, & ranks & cast them out of heaven.
Syriac authors present some of the legends concerning the creation of the first man in a work entitled: The Cave of Treasures, the author of this work is said to have belonged to the school of St. Ephrem. The ministering angels witnessed how the Creator had created man out of dust, water, air & fire. Upon seeing the great wondrous glory of the first man, the ministering angels bowed down to worship man. And when
the chief of the lower order of celestial beings saw what greatness had been given unto man, he was very jealous of him & refused to bend his knee & to worship man. Turning to his hosts he told them not to worship man, & praise him not as the other angels do. Disobedient & refusing to listen to the command of the All-Father, they were cast out of Heaven. He was divested of his garments of glory & was named Satana, because he had turned from God, & Sheda, because he had been thrown down, & Daiwa, because he had lost his angelic garment of glory.

DURING THE FIFTH ECUMENICAL COUNCIL. THE 2ND COUNCIL OF CONSTANTINOPLE IN 553, Origen's views & interpretations were again attacked.

THE EMPEROR JUSTINIAN, 527-565, wrote against Origen's interpretations of the pre-existence of human souls. But even though this council rejected Origen's version of the pre-existence, by this time, Christendom had been flooded with many basic elements to the different stories of the pre-existence as they were still being retained, & preserved
to a certain extent in art works, writings, manuscripts, customs and legends.

Some mystery plays were devised to instruct the people in Old & New Testament history. Among other subjects that were presented, some of the shows presented the fall of Lucifer. The tanners would play the fall of Lucifer, while others played different characters in religious history. The tanners job was to tan different animal skins to darker colors, thus they fit the part well, for according to traditions, writings & art works, etc., when the Devil & his angels were cast out of heaven, & upon having fallen from heaven, they lost their bright colors & were blackened. In some cases, to depict the devil & his angels as dark skinned monsters, this symbolized their fallen conditions, their apostasy, rebellion, & retrogression from the light of God that they had once known before their fall.

Legends about St. Michael-the-arch-angel, were being developed during this century too, for St. Gregory, born about 540, & died on the 12th of March, in 604, beheld the Archangel Michael hovering over a city. He alighted on the top of the Mausoleum & sheathed his bloody sword as though he had been in battle with some evil forces somewhere near by. By this time, Michael's traditional role was now legendized as being that of a guardian-angel who goes to battle against the forces of darkness.

DURING THE 7TH CENTURY A.D., The Old English Genesis, consisted of 2 poems in one, The Caedmonian Genesis A [c. 700] & Genesis B, [late 10th cent., from a 9th cent. Old Saxon poem.] Genesis A speaks of the fall of Satan, etc. While in Genesis B, satan was enraged at the prospects of humbling himself before a God whose supremacy he refused to acknowledge, he boasted of his own strength, & roused his followers to rebellion for which they were casted down into the fires of hell. Christ was presented as having lamented over the fallen angels. Another work from the Cathedral of Cortona is a drawing of a winged-angel standing on the back of a monster-dragon thrusting an arrow into it's mouth.

DURING THE 8TH CENTURY A.D., a number of art works may have been destroyed by zealous Iconoclasts. The Iconoclastic movement was launched about 725, by a decree of the Emperor Leo III forbidding the use of images in the Church. And yet in other areas of Christendom, many art work reflect a number of basic elements to the story of the pre-existence. In some areas of Christendom, during the
years 750-950 A.D., one writer notes that the God of early medieval art works, among other things depicted, shows Christ defeating humankind's captor. Fundamental dramas of religion during this time were to depict cosmic wars between Christ and the devil, or saints and angels against demons.

DURING THE 9TH CENTURY A.D., one of the main characters of the war in heaven drama was the Arch-angel Michael, for He would become the subject of art works for centuries to come, as he had already been depicted, spoken of, & written about, in earlier centuries. One artist shows Michael with a weapon in his right hand, his wings are spread out behind him, & a halo surrounds his head.

DURING THE 10TH CENTURY A.D., St. Michael is depicted in the act of overcoming a DRAGON. St. Michael's Mount in Cornwall, & a number of churches were dedicated to St. Michael, these works date from the period of the Norman influence in England.

DURING THE 11TH CENTURY A.D., a rather different depiction of the woman & the 7-headed dragon mentioned in John's Apocalypse (Rev.12), dates from A.D. 1007. In another, 1020 A.D., the dragon of the false prophet is about to be thrust through with spears. Another depicts a woman with up-lifted hands as if in prayer after having passed on her child into the hands of an angel that extends down from heaven. A dragon's tail curls around some of the stars of heaven and caused some of the stars, (symbolic of some of the spirits, or angels of God), to fall. Another dated, 1028 & 1077 A.D., depicts the War of the Angels & is from the Apocalypse of Beatus Saint-Sever (Gascony). Another is of the dragon-devil in the act of
attacking Mary & the Christ child, while an angel extends down out of the heaven where the heavenly city, or perhaps heavenly temple is, and clasps Christ's wrists before Christ is admitted into the heavenly Temple or city. In another, the war in heaven, etc., while another shows Michael the Archangel on a book-cover, in his right hand he holds the sword that helped him defeat the dragon.

DURING THE 12TH CENTURY A.D., Michael is depicted in an icon [early 12th century]. An English work, 1140, shows the traditional horned devil about to claw at the Virgin & her baby. The devil's foul breath spews forth towards them, while an angel of God extends down to take the child back into heaven
away from the devil. In another, the dragon confronts a woman, under her right foot is a crescent moon symbol. An angel descends out of heaven & clasps a hold of the child & is about to raise the child up off the lap of the women & ascend back into heaven. Another shows Michael armed with a shield in the act of thrusting a spear into the jaws of a dragon. In another, the angels of God fights with the dragon as the Christ child is passed on from the hands of an angel into the hands of the Father. Angels stab a dragon which has a number of heads extending from it's neck, the angels spears have pierced different parts of the dragon's body. Others depict Christ treading on the Beasts under His feet. While St. Michael as a Knight armed with a shield, etc., is depicted while trampling on Satan, [English works from the middle of the 12th century].
Among other events, the war in heaven is depicted on a tapestry work, [mid-12th cent.], Michael, armed with a spear & shield, battles with the dragon. One dated 1159, shows Michael & his angels fighting with the demonic forces of the dragon. During this century a wooden church was dedicated to the Archangel Michael, who had become the patron saint of the Russian army. It may be that the Russian army at that
time were inspired by Michael's courage as he was known to have fought in battle against evil forces. The church stood on the edge of Borovitsky Hill, and was eventually replaced during later centuries. Issac of Stella wrote of the parenthood of God, saying that he was a stranger & pilgrim here below, & not a son of man but a son of God hidden under the appearance & resemblance of man. He said he was not
the son of his father & mother, nor the brother of his brother, even if they say, affirm, & swear falsely that he was theirs'. He said that we are all orphans; we have no father on earth for our father is in heaven & our mother is a virgin. It is from there that we have our origins. There seems to be fragments of a belief in a pre-existence in these comments.

DURING THE 13TH CENTURY A.D., another work shows the hands of God extending down out of heaven to receive the hands of the Child, below this, the archangel Michael is seen armed with a weapon & shield, he strikes out against the dragon by thrusting the point of his weapon into the dragon's mouth. On the right side of the page, the dragon is again seen with 7 horned-heads. The dragon has stars at it's feet, & has curled it's tail around some of the stars of heaven. A number of crosiers that date back to this century show different battles between the dragon. A depictions of Revelations 12 shows a woman turned away from the dragon to pass her child into the
hands of an angel that extends down out of heaven to clasp the hand of the child. Up in the top right, the feet of the child extend down, thus, the Christ child was depicted here as having almost entered into the next realm, but not all the way yet.

In another, St. Michael the Archangel's conquest of Lucifer in shown in a mid-13th century work. Another depicts Revelations 12 in which the dragon (devil), seeks to destroy Mary & her baby the Christ child. But an guardian angel is there to receive the Christ child, who then passes him into the hands of the Father.

A number of war in heaven depictions date to 1250-1285. Another shows an angel in the act of clasping the hands of a child in order to take him into heaven, the dragon is there to confront them, but the child is carried away into heaven, as suggested by another portion that shows his legs extending down, thus the artist depicted the moment of his passing from one realm into another.

Another, dated 1260, shows the dragon curling in it's tail some of the stars (spirits), of heaven while it confronts the woman & her child. The child is eventually received into the heavenly mansions God, for the arm of God reaches out from the building (near it's entrance way), & clasps the wrists of the Christ child.

Another depicts Michael trusting a spear into the jaws of the dragon. Mechtild of Magdeburg [1207/10, 1282 or 1297], seems to reflect the idea that Christ pre-existed.

DURING THE 14TH CENTURY A.D., Dante Alighieri, born in Florence in 1265, & died in Ravenna in 1321, wrote a legendized account of the different realms of existences. Thus, in The Divine Comedy, he hints to the fallen angels, etc. Another work, 1340, shows Michael thrusting a spear into the mouth of a fire breathing dragon.

In other depictions, a heavenly gathering of saints form a council in a heavenly church. Dark colored demons with wings and horns fall to the earth, as angels of God thrust them out of heaven. A 7-headed dragon confronts a woman who's child is being snatched out of her arms by an angel coming down from
heaven. However, in this case, the angel clasps a hold of the child's elbow & shoulder. French tapestry 1375-1400 A.D.

DURING THE 15TH CENTURY A.D., a depiction of the creation, & the fall of angels out of heaven is found on an art work dated back to 1410. Another work, 1411-16, shows a council of angels meeting in heaven before the throne of God. A number of chairs became vacant after some of the angels had fallen out of heaven. Thus, some angels were depicted at the moment when they jumped out of their chairs, others when falling towards the earth, others when they crashed, & others as though they would have continued downward into the underworld.

In the Little Paradise Garden, 1420, from the region of the Middle Rhine. A winged St. Michael converses with St. George, who has vanquished a salamander-like dragon. In some Morality Plays the allegorical figures of the good and bad angels who appear in medieval plays hover above Marlowe's
Faustus and fight for possession of his soul. The Castle of Perseverance, 1425.

In another, 1427, 3 angels armed with spears, & one with a shield, cast the dragon out of heaven. Others show Michael with his angelic forces thrusting out the devil & his angels from heaven. The devil & his followers fall into fire that shoots up from the jaws of hell. Another work depicts Christ triumphant over satan & his fallen angels. Another shows Michael the archangel about to strike the dragon with a sword, 1400-1430-1450.

In a work by Michele Giambono, active 1420-1462, St. Michael is slaying the dragon. Another work is of The Punishment of the Rebellious Angels, 1455-1460.

An artist, 1475-1498, shows Michael the archangel fighting with the dragon, depicting him with a sword raised up at the moment before he strikes the dragon under his feet.
A wood cut, 1498, shows Michael & his angels fighting in the air with the monstrous looking demonic forces of the dragon. Another, 1493-1505, shows a war in heaven which rages behind the crucifixion scenes of calvary.

DURING THE 16TH CENTURY A.D., the fall of the angels is seen in a Flemish work, & the intensity of the battle is vividly seen in the way that the artist has depicted the war in heaven too. Raphael, 1483-1510, depicted Michael with his sword raised up in the act of `slaying the Dragon' under his feet. In
another, 1502, Michael slays the Dragon.

During the Reformation & the polemical struggles between the different sects of Christendom. The war in heaven story was carried over into a depiction of the "Antichrist" who is smitten by Michael & dragged by devils towards hell.

By 1525 the rebel angels, & their fall was presented again in legends, & art works, etc. Michael the archangel is depicted with an up raised sword about to strike at one of the rebel angels. Another shows Michael fighting with the dragon, another shows a winged Michael the Archangel trampling under his foot the fallen angel, satan.

The Cathedral of the Archangel Michael was constructed by the Italian architect named Alevisio Novi in 1505-08 A.D. In 1540-1605, a number of depictions & symbols of Michael's sword might have reminded the Christians of his battle with the devil, and the wings on his back, of his abilities to fight with the demons of the air.

DURING THE 17TH CENTURY A.D., John Milton, 1608-1674, in his Paradise Lost, presented the fall of satan & his angels. Other art works or some of the frescoes in the Cathedral of the Archangel Michael date back to the mid-17th century and they were created by Moscow painters. These later works, however, were based on frescoes of the 1560s. Among other historical events depicted, one of the recurrent themes in ancient Russian art was the frescoes of the Cathedral of the Archangel Michael which showed historical battle scenes in Russia. Earthly battles may have thus been seen by many as types of the battles which the Archangel Michael had won when fighting against the evil forces of satan in the war in heaven.

DURING THE 18TH CENTURY A.D., another depiction of the slaying of the dragon might remind us of Michael's battle with the dragon. However, in this case, the traditional story of St. George is represented. Earlier, some Christians considered the story of St. George's battle with the dragon as a type of Michael's battle.

DURING THE 19TH CENTURY A.D., William Blake, 1757-1827, offers a legendized version of different aspects of the pre-existence story, such as the fall of satan & his followers into hell. One of his works shows satan & two others falling down into the fires of hell. He makes reference to a number of
Biblical passages, such as Luke 10:18, 2 Cor.4:4; Psa.82, Rev. 12:10, & Job 1:6-7. Another is of a winged Michael with a sword in his right hand, while another shows an angel binding satan.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-days Saints, (or the LDS, or Mormon Church), believe that the doctrine & story of the pre-existence, as understood by the ancient Church, was lost during times of "The great apostasy". However, during the 1830-40s the knowledge of the pre-existence was again revealed by God through the prophet Joseph Smith.

Ellen G. White, 1880-1888, explains the origins of evil as going back to the time of "satan's rebellion" & the war in heaven.
DURING THE 20TH CENTURY A.D., Walt Disney's Fantasia depicts, with the help of music set to animated cartoons, a legendized version of the lord of darkness on a mountain.

Arthur E. Lickey [1952, & 1963] wrote a number of things about the war in heaven, etc. The Bible helped early to later Christians retain many basic elements of the story of the pre-existence, perhaps because of the many passages that
mention different aspects of the story. Another movie entitled: Legend, makes references to many faded hints of the pre-existence stories. For the lord of darkness calls himself an "exile" who was banished to live in fallen conditions. A battle between good & evil takes place. Good wins out in the end, & the lord of darkness is blasted out into space by the light of the sun which was reflected off a number of shields. He fades out of sight, & then suddenly there is a burst of light, and a number of stars go shooting off & spread out. All these things seem to be legendized symbolical reminders that just might remind us of the earlier stories & legends. Another movie entitled: "The 7th Seal", reflects certain aspects of some
versions of the pre-existence, in that it makes reference to the `chamber of souls.' This chamber holds a certain number of pre-existing spirits. This concept is found in early Jewish & Christian writings.

There is another area of study that is beginning to open up new aspects in our studies of the LIFE BEFORE LIFE. That is in the area of "life after life," or "near death experiences" = NDE. A number of people who have had NDEs, speak of seeing spirits preparing to be born into earthly bodies. Some speak
of having been shown their pre-earth life as a spirit, the war in heaven, & the fall of the rebellious spirits. They speak of having helped in the creation of animals, etc. They tell us how that they saw those who defended the plan of free agency over satan's plan of force. Others speak of having seen the results of the fallen angels' retrogression down into the realms of darkness, evil, & hate. Where different fallen beings had became more & more perverted, evil & demonic. They saw, during their NDEs, others who had lived on the earth, & who had died. Some of these souls had lived an evil life, & upon the times of their own particular deaths, many of them had continued to seek after evil things. And so, such a ones as these were in the process of retrogressing down towards becoming like unto the fallen angels, & had even joined forces with them.
Some mothers speak of having NDEs while giving birth. In the course of their NDEs, some speak of having seen the spirit(s) of their child(ren) to be. Another area of research could be called "Pre-Birth Experiences" = PBE. The PBE is where different parents, or parents to be, experience spiritual
confirmations. Or, in some cases, even visitations, &, or, communications of one sort or another from pre-mortal spirits. They make themselves known in, &, by different ways. For the pre-mortal spirits' presence(s) may be spiritually discerned by the parent(s) or (parent(s) to be. But in some cases, no visible
visitation takes place, but rather, the spiritually discerning parent(s), or parent(s) to be, discerns feelings of love & joy, as the pre-mortal spirit(s) communicates to their mind(s) a message that they will, or would like to be born soon. While in other cases, visible visitations have been reported to have taken place. In these cases, the pre-mortal spirit(s) indicates to their parent(s) to be, that they are about to come into earth life to be their child(ren). Some parents, or parents to be, might have a dream, in which they see in the spirit form, different family members to be. In other cases, some pre-mortal spirits may give their parents to be, a visible hint of some kind. Such as turning on an a electrically powered child's toy in a baby's room, when no physical person could have been there to turn it on. These different kinds of
PBEs seem to add new insights & horizons in the studies of a LIFE BEFORE LIFE.

What adds to these stories & evidences is the spiritual special effects as given by the Holy Ghost to prayerful researchers & truth seekers. May that witness have been felt as you considered a sample of the evidence in this section. And may you continue to feel the witness of the Holy Spirit as you continue in your own personal quest for truth. May the Father, & His Son Jesus Christ & the Holy Spirit be our guides into all truth,-- which is a knowledge of past, present & future. And may our own pilgrimages back to that family in heaven & home from which we came, be with the angelic guides of light & love. If not even with the LIGHT Himself, or with the Christ.

NOTES AND BIBLIOGRAPHY:

1- Monumental Christianity, John P. Lundy, 1875, Pub. by J W Bouton, N.Y., 1882, page 98.

2- "Barnabas made the explicit symbolic connection between evil, darkness, and blackness, symbolism that was to have a long and sinister history in Christian civilization." The Prince of Darkness, Jeffery Burton Russell, 1988, Cornell Un. Press, Ithaca, N.Y., p.54; (The Ante-Nicene Fathers, = (TANF), Vol.1, pp.133, 139, 148, dated here at "A.D. 100".

3- The Prince of Darkness, op. cit., p.55; The Ante Nicene Fathers, Vol.1, pp.151, 155, & n.3.

4- Apostasy to Restoration, T. Egar Lyon, 1960, p.168; After Jesus, (The Triumph of Christianity), by Reader's Digest, 1992, p.11 of Chronology 600 Years at a Glance).

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Answers to: Why Are There Locker Booths in the Dressing Rooms of LDS Temples?

Why might there automatically be lockers in LDS Temples?

Well, the obvious reason is that lockers wouldn't be lockers if they didn't have built in locks. Another reason is, most of us like privacy, when getting dressed or undressed. There's lockers, just like how Christian churches & other religious buildings have lockable entrances & exits. Most Christian churches have lockable doors to their preachers' offices! Most doors & entrances, or locker rooms, are automatically made with built in lockers. So it's no a big deal!

Many of us have heard or read in anti-Mormon "Christian" publications, or even radio shows, about how some critics will make big deals about there being lockers in the Temple, when, as they say, "Mormons are suppose to be 'honest in their dealings with their fellow men." Plus, how LDS are asked in the Temple recommend interviews, if they are honest & if they keep the commandments!

Another reason is that there are infiltrators that enter into LDS Temples, "false brethren" that come in with fake temple recommends! This, is of course, shows the infiltrators are dishonest! Cases in point:

But why might there be a need for lockers?

The questions are often asked by anti-Mormon "Christians," who claim to be "saved by grace & not by works," & many of which believe that personal righteousness is not required to "be saved." They have these distorted, selective passages that they cite from the Bible to allege this. While there are many more passages in the bible that talk about keeping the commandments & doing good works as being basic standards for being saved. Thus, good works & living a righteous life are being discouraged in these ways by many of these critics. Which must delight the devil & his demons, cause temping people to not do good works & to do evil works, their job is half done in the preaching of these types of false doctrines that are popular amongst anti-LDS "Christians!"

These anti-LDS Christians'dishonest actions in going into LDS Temples with fake temple recommends, also are big warning to members to be sure to lock their lockers, while they take part in the endowments!

These same critics, that like to cite from the bible to justify them not having to do any good works; then will go around working, or "witnessing," to get others to be "saved by grace & not by works!"

They boast "knowing Jesus as their personal savior," but then discourage doing "good works," & even poke fun of LDS' good works done & others' efforts to do good works & their righteous efforts to be kind, honest, help their fellow humankind, etc. But then the critics love to publish cases where LDS people have made mistakes, or been busted for breaking the law, etc. They do this knowing that their fellow Christians aren't perfect & are attacked by Atheists who do the same types of publications about the crimes of Christians. A case in point that could be used is those Christians, 10 Baptists, who are ALLEGED to have kid-napped kids from Haiti?

We're all not perfect, & even if it can be alleged, it's an automatic "guilty" sentence for many who don't bother hearing the accused other sides of their stories as defendants. The point being that anti-LDS "Christians" like to point out LDS faults while many LDS do know that they should repent, & many do change their lives! But also, like everyone else, make mistakes from time to time too!

To be so bad, they have to be so good!?

Some of these critics go so far as to vilify LDS temple as being "satanic," but then will poke fun of LDS for doing good works!? So, to be so bad, you have to be so good!? Critics claim that LDS are "working their way" to an "impossible" moral "perfection," that they claim causes some LDS "to commit suicide," because they can't "be perfect in this life." LDS don't expect to be perfect in this life; or are required to be "perfect in this life," for perfection is an on going process that goes on even in the after life realms.

These same critics will claim that they "know Jesus as their personal savior!"

This reminds me of 1 John 2:3-6: "3. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. ⁴. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. ^5.But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."

Some of these critics, like Robert Verdan (Verdin?); often stand on the side walk, outside SLC Temple square, WORKING on, or "witnessing" to LDS General Conference goers. Robert, boasts of obtaining fake temple recommends, & boasted, even on Van Hale's radio shows, & to me in person, of having gone through different LDS temples throughout the USA, getting in with fake temple recommends.

In the New Testament church, & early Christian mysteries, the early Christians were warned against false brethren & those who infiltrated to "spy out" what the early Christians were doing in their meetings.

Paul to the Galatians 2:4, "And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:"

The results of these "false brethren," & their types, were how all kinds of misinterpretations & rumors began to spread because of those who vilified what was going on in "the mysteries" of the early Christians. This attributed to the settings for persecutions & the different slaughters that took place during those early centuries of Christianity. (See: W. H. C. Frend, Martyrdom & Persecution In The Early Church, (Garden City, New York: Anchor Books Doubleday & Company, 1967); Frend, The Early Church, (Philadelphia and New York: J. B. Lippincott Company, 1966); Stan-Michel Pellistrandi, The Early Christian Civilization, 1978, p.180-200; A. S. Garretson, Primitive Christianity And Early Criticism, (Boston: Sherman, French & Company, 1912); Henry Ansgar Kelly, The Devil at baptism: Ritual, Theology, and Drama, (Ithaca and London: Cornell University Press, 1985); Dr. Huge Nibley, Mormonism and Early Christianity, (1987); John P. Lundy, Monumental Christianity, Or the Art and Symbolism of the Primitive Church, (New York: J. W. Bouton, 1875 & 1882); R. Joseph Hoffmann, (translator) Celsus On The True Doctrine, (A Discourse Against the early Christians), (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1987); Robert Louis Wilken, The Christians As The Romans Saw Them, (Yale University Press; New Haven and London, 1984); Stephen Benko, Pagan Rome And The Early Christians, (Indiana: Indiana University Press, 1984); T. Edgar Lyon, Apostasy to Restoration, (Salt Lake City, Utah: Deseret Book Company, 1960; Course of Study for the Melchizedek Priesthood Quorums of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, CR 1960, David O. McKay); Profs. Daniel C. Peterson & Stephen D. Ricks, Offenders For A Word, [How Anti-Mormons Play Word Games to Attack the Latter-day Saints], (Aspen Books, Salt Lake City, Utah, 1992); ORIGEN AGAINST CELSUS. In the Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol.4, pp.395-669. Origen [3rd cent. A.D.], wrote 8 books answering the charges made by the early anti-Christian writer named Celsus, who wrote against the early Christians about AD 170-80).

1 John 2:18-19: "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

¹⁹They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." (John goes on to write about anointing that the early Christians were doing, & the counterfeit anointing that false brethren were doing, 1 John 2:18-29).

Early Christian examples of why precautions & security measure were taken in the mysteries. (An early Christian case as to why might there have been locker type precautions in their places of meetings, worship & mysteries):

In answer to such questions, let us first turn back the pages of "historic Christianity" which the critics claim to be a part of, while they also say the LDS are so far "removed from."

Precautions against "lustful thoughts" in the early Christian mysteries, or endowment ceremonies:

It may be that the curtains, or veils in historic Christian mysteries, served not only as ritualistic types, but also, that they served to also solve a few possible problems, before they got started. Hence, the curtains or veils that divided part of the baptismal font in early Christian mysteries, could have been symbolic of passing through the veil of death, inasmuch as baptism was a type of death, burial, descent into the lower regions, and the resurrection, or ascension out of the grave, or the underworld.

What ever might have been the symbolical meaning for these curtains, it's interesting to note that in some places the men were baptized first, and then the women. In others, different parts of the Baptistery were assigned to them, and curtains were hung across the Font itself. (The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, 2nd series, vol. 7, p. xxiii of the Introduction, see note 2: Bingham, Ant. VIII. c. 7, 2; XI. c. ii, 3).

Another reason for the veils or curtains, is this, keeping in mind that you don't have to be "perfect" to go through the temple, for such things are for the helping of "the perfecting of the saints." (Eph. 4:7-14). This, certainly means that people are not perfect yet, for that is an on going process that continues even in the after-life realms.

However, the same types of precautions were also taken in the case with historic Christian mysteries too, just as in the cases with the restored version! Thus, the reason why there were curtains or veils that separated the men and women from seeing each other, in some cases, was this:

Washings and anointings in historic Christian mysteries were performed before baptism, for they were anointed as if they were "Christs" about to descend down into the spirit prison to free captive spirits held there. This was one of the popular ritualistic types in historic Christian mysteries, that had connections with baptisms for the dead. However, in the case with historic Christianity, they were naked when they were washed and anointed. Why? Because this was a type of how Christ was "naked" while hanging on the cross. Another type that explained their nakedness was that they had taken off their old clothing as a type of taking off the old person of sin.

Naked early Christians in their baptismal ceremonies:

The art works and writings show how souls in hell are often depicted as being unprotected from the demons and fires of hell, hades, limbo, purgatory, because of how their naked souls are exposed. However, upon being lifted up by saints, Christ, prophets, or angels; in many cases the lifting up is by hand and wrist grips; they are then lifted out of these infernal regions and are then clothed in garments, robes, a large cloth of some kind, that protects them from the fires and demons in the air that attempt to get at them during their ascension into paradise or heaven.

The ritualistic types of these things are in the ways that the person descends down into the font, or baptismal waters naked, as if they were descending into the infernal realms. Then, after being baptized, they ascend up out of the font, naked again, but then are anointed (in some cases a second time), and are clothed in a garment. This was a type of how the souls is clothed in a resurrected body when coming up out of the grave, or up out of the lower realms.

Roger Adam tells how that there are "...numerous allusions to his [Adam's who represents man's] nakedness and shame and the garment placed upon him at the time of his expulsion. The garment that will be placed upon the catechumen at baptism is equated to the garment of skins placed upon Adam at the time of the fall. A parallel is made between the situation of Adam in the garden and that of the catechumen in the baptistery, and the candidate is to think of himself as if he were Adam in the garden." (Roger Adam, "Baptism for the Dead," Thesis for the degree of Doctor, 1977, (Salt Lake City, Utah: LDS Historical Library Archives has a copy of this thesis), pp.51, & 61, see also note 5- "Danielou, Liturgy, 13, citing Theodore's commentary on the sacrament of baptism". See also: 2 Cor. 5:1-10).

While it makes sense that in a Resurrection fresco everyone should emerge naked out of the grave, Signorellis insistence on nudity in the crowning scene holds special meaning. One would expect the crowning of the saints to be preceded by their in vestment with robes. This, for instance, is the sequence followed in the British coronation service: first the robe, then the crown. Signorelli omitted the investment with robes, assuming that in paradise restored the blessed need no garments. (Colleen McDannell and Bernhard Lang, Heaven: A History, (New Haven and London: Yale University Press, 1988), p. 137, 14th-- 16th cent. A.D. Job 1:21; Ecclesiastes 5:14--15).

Fra Angelicos The Last Judgment, 15th century, is a good example to consider: On the left hand side of Christ, showing what is happening in hell: The social organization that clothing established and reinforced is here totally ruptured, replaced by a crush of stripped-down bodies now grouped only by the hierarchy of punishments to which they are subject. The blessed, by contrast, [on Christs right hand side,] retain their distinguishing garments, now imbued with a shimmering radiance." (Sharon T. Strocchia, Death and Ritual in Renaissance Florence, (Baltimore and London: The John Hopkins University Press, 1992), pp. 45--46, fig. 21).

Jeffrey Burton Russell points out that baptism was considered, in some branches of Christendom, to be a type of the descent of Christ into the under world, & that the anointing was a seal against the further assaults by the Prince of Darkness. For in some cases, the "...priest blew into the candidate's face to express contempt for the demons and drive them away. The priest also touched the catechumen's ears with spittle in imitation of Jesus' healing. He marked the sign of the cross on the candidate's brow to keep demons away. During the Easter vigil, the catechumen would face the west, the region of darkness and death, and make a formal threefold renunciation of Satan. Then he turned toward the east, the direction of light and resurrection, and formally transferred his allegiance to Christ. He was anointed with holy oil as a seal against further assaults by the Prince of Darkness. In the central act of baptism, the descent into water symbolized descent into the underworld of death, & emergence from the water symbolized rebirth & resurrection. Baptism, the culmination of the individual's freedom from Satan, had powers to cure illness of body and mind as well as corruption of soul." (Jeffrey Burton Russell, The Prince of Darkness, (Ithaca, New York: Cornell Un. Press, 1988), p. 122).

"Cardinal Colonna writes `The Catechumens without clothing, descended into the water of the baptistery..." (A History of the Baptists, Curry, pp.274-5).

Gregory of Nyssa, 4th century, wrote of the types behind why they were naked, during their mysteries. Hence, in a symbolical way, the old man was to put on the new man. We will be changed into the fairness of that innocence as unto the innocence of an infant who is free from sin & accusations & from penalties, having been released by royal bounty from accountability.

Gregory: The 3 immersions were a type of Christ's descent into the grave, or the underworld. There is also "the clean and fair apparel; teaching us the figurative illustration that verily in the Baptism of Jesus all we, putting off our sins like some poor and patched garment, are clothed in the holy and most fair garment of regeneration."

Further on Gregory wrote: "Thou didst strip off the fig-tree leaves, an unseemly covering, and put upon us a costly garment" (The Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers, vol. 5, pp.519-520, & 524, Gregory of Nyssa: Dogmatic Treatises, etc. reprint June 1972, by W. M. B. Eerdmans).

In 12th century Monastic culture, Canterbury, England, in illustrations of Psalm 88, we see a naked person, perhaps David, being anointed by an angel that holds a horn over his head. Two other angels, standing near by, hold white garments to cloth him in. (Margaret Gibson, Editor with others: T. A. Heslop, Richard W. Pfaff, The Eadwine Psalter, Text, Image, and Monastic Culture in Twelfth-Century Canterbury, (London, England; Pennsylvania, USA: The Modern Humanities Research Association in conjunction with The Pennsylvania University Press; London and University Park, 1992), Illustration to Psalm 88, Fol. 156v; #26b, Utrecht, University Library, MS Script. eccl. 484, fol. 51v. Illustration to Psalm 88; # 47c, Paris, Bibliothque Nationale, MS lat. 8846, fol. 56v).

15th century, in John Bunyan's 'The Pilgrim's Progress,' garment types and garment imagery are presented in how that the repentant are forgiven of their sins and stripped of their rags, and clothed in new raiment. Types and imagery of baptism and taking off of mortal garments to be clothed in "white Robes," is also presented in this story too. (Charles W. Eliot, LL.D., (Editor), The Harvard Classics, The Pilgrims's Progress, by John Bunyan, (New York: P. F. Collier & Son Corporation, 1938, CR P.F. Collier & Son, 1910, 56th printing, 1965), vol. 15, pp. 41, 160-164).

The historic Christians, in thus being naked, during some point in their ritualistic journey from lower realms to higher realms, where their naked bodies are clothed in garments; they thus established a precaution that they supposed helped solve some problems before they got started. That of the problems of having the females and males both, of course, being distracted from seeing each others' naked bodies. And the problem of thus being distracted. Just think how it might have been had they not built in these safe-guards, and precautions! Their minds would have wandered, some would have troubled about how they might look, or if others were looking at them, rather than paying attention to the explanations behind the types in the mysteries. Plus, as some early Christians have told us, they wanted to solve the problem, before it got started, of some of them even lusting after the other members of the opposite sex!

Another reason why veils or curtains were hung up in their mysteries:

Consequently, we are told that the reason why there were so many veils in the historic Christian mysteries was because of how the veils divided the different areas where the naked men were being baptized, and the naked women were being baptized! Hence, though the veils also had ritualistic types and meanings behind them, they also made it so that they couldn't see each others' naked bodies!

Sounds like the early Christians were humans too, and weren't perfect in this life, any more than the Latter-day Saints are, for having lockers in their Temples.

Roger J Adam notes that: During the last instructions just prior to baptism the catechumens were veiled, or had their faces covered, in order that their mind might be more at liberty, and that the wandering of their eyes might not distract their soul. (Roger J. Adam, Baptism for the Dead, (Salt Lake City, Utah: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Historical Library, Archives, call slip number Res; M234. 62, R216, an unpublished thesis for the degree of Doctor, 1977), pp. 60 & 62, note 33: Cote, Archaeology, 70).

A.D. 318386, S. Cyril, Archbishop of Jerusalem, wrote of a ceremony at Jerusalem: Thy face has been veiled, that thy mind may henceforth be free, lest thy eye by roving make the heart rove also. But when thine eyes are veiled, thine ears are not hindered from receiving the means of salvation. (The Nicene and Post-Nicene Fathers, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: WM. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, 1983), Second Series in 14 volumes, vol. 7, p. xx of Introduction, by E. H.. G., notes 56. Note 5: De Nupt. et Concup. II. 33: de Pecc. Orig. 45; contra aulian Pelag. VI. II; Op. Imperf. c. Julian. I. 50; III. 144, &c. Note 6: De Symbolo, 2. Cf. Cat. xx. (Myst. ii.) 2. See also: The Nicene and Post Nicene Fathers, vol. 7, p. 3, S. Cyril, Archbishop of Jerusalem, The Catechetical Lectures. 9).

St. Ambrose of Milano, A.D. 340--397, mentions the garment covering for the body as being like unto the veil, for he called it the chaste veil of innocence." (The Nicene & Post-Nicene Fathers, (Grand Rapids, Michigan: W.M. B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, reprinted, Aug. 1979; 2nd series), vol. 10, pp. 321--23, St. Ambrose, A.D. 340--397, On The Mysteries, chapters, 6--8; Hamman, Traite des Mysteres, in L Initiation Chretienne, p. 74, cited in Blake Ostlers article: Clothed Upon: A Unique Aspect of Christian Antiquity, published in Brigham Young University Studies, vol. 22, Winter 1982, Number 1, pp. 31--45).

If the early Christians took precautions, such as having veils to cover their womens' faces, and veils to separate the naked men from the naked women, in order to help themselves, (in the case with the women), and the men, from being distracted, or as a pre-caution that both the men and women might not be tempted as much to have lustful thoughts to enter into their thoughts about each other by seeing each others' nakedness. Then, why can't the restored version of the early Christian mysteries, also have safe guards and pre-cautions too, such as lockers?

Hence, no Christian Apologist, least he/she wants to be guilty of attacking his/her early Christian roots, should complain or make a big deal about how LDS temples have lockers in them. The lockers, of course, are a precaution that helps members not be distracted by having their minds wander, thinking about if their valuables were O.K., or not O.K.

However, could it be that they also have lockers to protect the true members' belongings from anti-Mormon "Christians," who have dishonestly obtained, or forged false Temple recommends, and have thus been heard, on the radio shows, boasting about having gone through different Temple Endowments, at different Temples!? If such a ones as these are thus dishonest in going through the Temple; why should we not believe that they wouldn't dare go through a true member's un-protected personal things, if there happened to have been no lockers?

Maybe that is one of the real reasons why there are lockers in the Temple!

Summation: Why are there lockers in LDS temples?

1. Same as they're locks on Christian & other religious buildings. They're automatically included. We like our privacy! We're not all perfect!

2. False brethren infiltrated the New Testament Church. Anti-LDS "Christians," some of them, boast to going into LDS temples with fake temple recommends. Thus, lockers would keep such dishonest people out of members' personal belongings & wallets!

3. Lockers are like early Christian veils! Because we're not all perfect, & might have "wandering eyes," veils reduce the chances of lustful thoughts happening, for early Christians were baptized naked in many cases! Thus, reports of veils dividing where the women were baptized & where the men were, are noted by historians of ancient Christianity.
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Marriage of the Virgin - Raphael 1504 AD Milan - Pinacoteca di Breva

Hand clasping ring 18th century

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Creation scenes of God wedding Adam & Eve, joining their hands together in marriage!

Book of Revelation, Netherlands 1430-40s

Cité de Dieu La - Augustinus council in heaven; fallen angels, creation of Eve hand clasp.

Council in heaven, falling angels, creation scenes, God pulls Eve out of Adam's side by hand clasp

Top enlarge portion that shows council in heaven & the fall of the angels

Rev.12:1-5; Gothic manuscript, 1250-85 AD, Angel passes Christ child into Hands of God

St. Michael & legend. Left, 2nd down, war in heaven.

Fall of the Rebell Angels - Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art in Kansas City, Missouri

War in Heaven, God's angels combat rebell angels & thrust them down into the underworld!

The Fall of the Rebel Angels from Les Très Riches Heures du duc de Berry (miniature), c. 1410

Michael defeats the Dragon- Raphael 1503-05 AD Paris- Musee du Louvre

Michael defeats the devil underfoot - Raphael 1518 AD - Paris - Musee du Louvre

Hieronymus Bosch, Haywain triptych, AD 1515 - Council, war, fall of rebellious angels.

Pieter Bruegel the Elder- The Fall of the Rebel Angels - AD 1562

John Martin, 19th century English painter, 1825, Fall of the Rebel Angels

Pre-mortal Christ watches Adam's descent from heaven to earth

The Milton Shield - Michael tells Adam & Eve about the War In Heaven!

Creation of Eve, Dutch illustration, 15th cent.

Creation of Adam

Creation drama hand clasping

God clasping Eve's hand

Creation of Adam, God's left hand to Adam's left to clasp hands.

Broager. c.1525. Peter L..ykt. (M-K 05-052) Judgment.

Harrowing of Hell. Christ about to clasp Adam's hand

Christ grips Adam's hand as souls are set free from hell.

Altar Gospels in silver-gilt cover with enameled medallions. Dated 1772.

God weds Adam & Eve by joining their hands

God joining the hands of Adam & Eve to wed them!

Orants = Praying figures, are often depicted with up-lifting hands

Orants are praying saints, oftened praying with up raised hands.

Creation of Eve surrounded by praying angels in heavenly council?

Early Christain Prayer Circles - Orants with up-raised hands

Ladder to "Christian moral perfection" with Christ pulling souls into heaven by wrist grip.

Protective blanket, like protective robes souls are clothed in to protect them from winged demons!

Judgment: On Christ's lower right side, souls on Abram's(?) lap, clasp hands, saved in paradise!

Paradise scenes, greetings & hand clasping guides

Peter greets souls, with hand clasping on Christ's right hand.

2 Ways, right hand path on Christ's right hand of judgment, hand grip & clothed in garments!

"2 ways" Right & Left Paths, Peter clasp hands of souls on right hand of Christ's Judgment.

More Evidences in Historic Christian Art

Orant = Praying female, face veiled, up-lifted hands.

Christ & Adam grasp hands as Christ starts the harrowing of hell.

Christ's descent into Limbo, 4th-5th century AD. Adam's right to Christ's right. Venice, St. Marks.

Mosaic of hand symbol on pillar, with curtains on both sides.

Hand clasp welcome of righteous on right hand of Christ's judgment

Christ in Purgatory, 14th cent. Gothic painting, Master of Westphalia, redrawn by Debra Worth.

Christ lifting Adam out of hell, Angels assist Christ

Baptism for the Dead: The Coptic Rationale, John A Tvedtnes

12 oxen under font represent 12 apostles. Baptism of Christ, angels with garments. Latin script

Liege- Oxen analogy of moten sea 1 Kings 7:23- 12 apostles - Rupert of Deutz De Trinitate, 1117

Baptism of Christ hand of Father angel with garments

Baptism as type of Christ's descent into hades, under doors watery underworld monster is crushed!

Baptism of Christ, Angel holds white robes. Early Christians dressed in white, symbolic of purity.

Mary's soul, in Christ's hands. Angel with robe, a traditional symbol for deification.

Ivory - Lower Saxony early 11th c. Christ's descent into hell & ascension into heaven.

4th century Christian ivory work, Munich, Ascension of Christ.

Ivory work of Christ's ascension into heaven. From Rome, 400 CE. "Reidersche tafel"

Ascension of Christ into Heaven, drawing of a Christian work dated 980 AD.

Christ's Ascension, Drogo Sacramentary (Paris BN lat. 9428), 9th cent.